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AG Healey wants doctors to talk guns with patients (MA)
guns.com ^ | Feb. 14, 2017 | Chris Eger

Posted on 02/14/2017 11:35:00 AM PST by PROCON

Healey, along with members of the Massachusetts Medical Society, Massachusetts Chiefs of Police Association and the Massachusetts Major City Chiefs of Police, announced their gun resources for patients this week. (Photo: Mass.gov)


State Attorney General Martha Healey teamed up with the Massachusetts Medical Society on Monday to provide voluntary guidance to heath care professionals in the state on guns.

Announced at Boston Medical Center, Healey and Mass Med are providing two pamphlets and free training on talking to patients about firearms.

“While the vast majority of gun owners are responsible and deeply committed to gun safety, this remains a public health issue, and conversations between patients and health care providers are critically important to preventing gun-related injury and death,” said Healey in a statement.

Compiled as a result of a yearlong effort by the attorney general’s office, Mass Med, and two police chief lobby groups, the literature developed for the program includes a four-page pamphlet for patients covering Massachusetts safe storage laws while touching on disposing of unwanted guns and suicide prevention.

Another two-page pamphlet, directed at health professionals, concerns how to talk to their possibly at risk patients about guns and offers suggestions.

“For example, rather than advising a patient to get rid of a gun, you could suggest that there are a number of different ways to make guns less accessible, ranging from selling/surrendering the gun, to disposing of ammunition, to temporarily storing the gun outside the home,” one suggestion reads.

Mass Med hosts both the literature and other resources, some of which count as continuing education for health care professionals.

“Gun violence is a major public health threat,” said Mass Medical President James S. Gessner, M.D., “and physicians can play a key role in curbing the violence by educating patients about the risks of gun ownership and encouraging our colleagues to talk to their patients.”

The prospect of gun control as a public health issue has proven controversial in recent years with several medical lobby groups banding together to fight a Florida law preventing conversations with patients on their firearms. A 2016 survey published by The Annals of Internal Medicine argues two-thirds of Americans are OK with doctors discussing guns.

The National Rifle Association’s affiliate group in the state contended via social media that the move by Healey and Mass Medical was “dishonest grandstanding” while pointing out the gun safety pamphlet contains no actual NRA-recommended firearms safety “golden rules.”

Mass Medical, for its part, also took to social media, tweeting out the link to the new materials with the tagline, “Learn how to talk to your patients about gun safety.”


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; doctors; gungrabbers; massachusetts; nra
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I have no problem with what they ask. I tell them i own a few hundred guns and ammo for all of them and that i am a crack shot. If anyone comes after my guns they will be the first take a round in the forehead so there will be no need for an ambulance or me tying up any of the doctors time. Then i ask them if they have ever taken part in unprotected gay sex. The examination usually gets done faster that Way and they get the idea about what to not ask me.
41 posted on 02/14/2017 1:00:55 PM PST by Plumberman27
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To: PROCON

Will my doctor talk to me about my investment choices? About proper lawn care? About the best brand of kitchenware?


42 posted on 02/14/2017 1:05:51 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: PROCON

To legal owners only - those that have unlicensed or stolen guns need not talk with their doc.


43 posted on 02/14/2017 1:07:09 PM PST by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: PROCON

The best response to this is for gun liberty groups to come up with “approximate” statements that lie to the doctor about their gun ownership. That is, everybody needs to paraphrase their statement to say that they do not own guns.

Let the gun liberty groups tell the medical organizations what they are doing, and why. They are used to liberal groups trying to coerce them. They need to tell doctors it is their own fault for *forcing* their patients to lie to them, and that medical doctors lose credibility, respect and *status* when they try to do so, “as agents of the state.”

Since no matter what you tell the doctor, it will be entered into your medical record, and immediately be accessible to no fewer than 20 *federal* agencies, and likely many *state* agencies, it is imperative that you *absolutely do not* admit to owning a gun or guns.

Children must be strictly taught and reminded that they must never tell *anyone* about guns owned by the family, and why. Children need to take this extremely seriously. This means no bragging about gun ownership, no admitting to gun use, no nothing not. This must be taught to them as vital to their families well being.

The gun rights organizations need to make this personal with doctors, even going so far as to publish the names of doctors who are “anti-gun”, and so cannot be trusted as with confidential information as physicians. They care more about what the government wants than what their patients need.


44 posted on 02/14/2017 1:11:04 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Leftists aren't fascists. They are "democratic fascists", a completely different thing.)
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To: PROCON

I recently changed doctors here in Alabama. In the first appointment, they went through a list of questions. When it came to the gun question, I said “Declined to answer”, and she said that the answers are not shared, and I said that I still declined to answer.

What I have or don’t have is not their problem.


45 posted on 02/14/2017 1:17:13 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: PROCON

NO!

Your move ...


46 posted on 02/14/2017 1:18:20 PM PST by NorthMountain (AP is fake news)
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To: Pollster1
2. Find a real doctor who pays attention to the medical issues you went to the doctor to learn about, instead of playing political correctness games.

Haha! My podiatrist (who I must see every 60 days) is a right-minded young man. When he works on my feet we discuss "that lunatic AG Healey" and other matters...Have you been to the range?...Gotten any new pieces?...things of that sort. He even has offered to loan me his AR-15 so I can try it out.

If only all my Docs were like that.

47 posted on 02/14/2017 1:34:50 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted. It belongs to the brave. - - Ronaldus Magnus Reagan)
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To: Mr. Douglas

“I can’t remember the last time I saw a doctor. I have nothing to tell them.”

WOW ! You must thank the GOOD LORD every day for that fact...


48 posted on 02/14/2017 2:06:22 PM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

My chiropractor doesn’t even blink when I remove my GLOCK, with holster, and put it to the side. She has a GLOCK among others and belongs to same range. My sports doctor and I talk knives. Her hubby has a SIG. My medical doc and her nurse don’t blink when I take my shirt off and there is a two mags on my left side (gun is in holster in bag at my feet. My optometrist and I discussed left eye dominance right hand shooting. She treats police officers too.


49 posted on 02/14/2017 2:52:49 PM PST by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: PROCON

She’s an idiot.


50 posted on 02/14/2017 2:53:59 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Mr. Douglas

I avoid doctors. The last time I saw our doctor was probably five or more years ago. We have a new doctor now, but I’ve never met him.


51 posted on 02/14/2017 2:56:33 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: from occupied ga
Not only did the mother go ballistic on the kid she started screaming at the guy selling them something to the effect how dare he sell guns to children. I think he politely told her to go away if she didn’t like it. I would have been a lot less polite.
One mantra of the hoplophobes is that teaching children how to safely handle firearms makes them potential killers. Using this twisted logic, does providing sex ed make them potential porn stars?
52 posted on 02/14/2017 3:00:17 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an Islamophobe like it's a bad thing)
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To: PROCON

Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership (DRGO) should be all over this. Talking about guns with patients, unless they volunteer the information, is a professional boundary violation, and should be punished by loss of license, at least.


53 posted on 02/14/2017 3:11:19 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Gotta hand it to the vatos with the pistola’s...they don’t have there fingers on the trigger...the vato with the shotgun...not so good!!


54 posted on 02/14/2017 3:26:03 PM PST by Osage Orange (We can all live together as brothers or perish together as fools)
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To: Pollster1

When the AAPPCA reared its ugly head a small group of doctors here in Augusta , Maine stopped taking any insurance ...they went strictly cash/credit...prices are posted for every procedure and are very low ...they save mountains of cash just from a labor and billing standpoint ...I have never had an insurance policy from obama/pelosi....made sure that i owed a little bit in fed tax every year and have never been penalized or bothered...I have a private medical service end of story...I’m also a former combat medic and I have never even contemplated going to the VA.


55 posted on 02/14/2017 4:51:48 PM PST by mythenjoseph
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To: Plumberman27; wardaddy
Then i ask them if they have ever taken part in unprotected gay sex.

Damn. That is so funny. I wish I had seen that a couple of years ago. I went to an obviously liberal doc who asked me about sex - straight, gay, whatever. I was shocked. So I asked him if animals were an option. He got laughing.

Then he immediately moved on to more relevant questions. So I told him he hadn't asked me about firearms. And would he like to see my glock? I pulled my purse up to his desk. So funny.

This is so strange, I just this minute got a phone call from a woman asking to speak with John. Obviously a telemarketer. I demanded to know if she was his girlfriend. And why was she calling his house on Valentine's Day evening while we were celebrating our relationship. Lots of fun.

56 posted on 02/14/2017 4:52:10 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: PROCON

Maura Healey is a scumbag as are the majority of the politicians in my former state.....people are amazed that I have conservative views after being educated in Massachusetts...I left the state for good about a decade ago , it is far to corrupt ... all aspects of government and the services they provide...ALL of them.


57 posted on 02/14/2017 4:56:30 PM PST by mythenjoseph
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To: litehaus

WOW ! You must thank the GOOD LORD every day for that fact...


Actually, yes. Part of our daily prayer is that he keep us healthy until the day we die. It is covered under “give us this day our daily bread”.

He is our physician. We put our trust in Him.


58 posted on 02/15/2017 7:48:15 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: PROCON

If possible get/have a doctor who hunts and owns guns himself.

We had a new doctor about 4 years ago. He is a gun owner and former hunter.

Here is how my first visit went re guns.

Dr. Do you have guns at home?

Me. Yes, and I have a California approved gun safe.

Dr. Good.

Following yearly visits.

Dr. Do you still have your gun safe.

Me. Yes.

Dr. Good.

My wife got the same ? on her yearly visits. She said the same, “We have a California approved gun safe.”

Then our doctor moved on to normal health related ?’s.


59 posted on 02/15/2017 8:24:05 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Concerned trolls/NeverTrumpsters, don't know to celebrate winning as they buy into fake news!!!!)
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To: PROCON

Doctor: “Do you own a gun?”

Patient: “Do you still beat your wife?”


60 posted on 02/16/2017 10:28:28 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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