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To: HiTech RedNeck

There are three general groups of leftists:

1.) Those that are ignorant/ill informed/don’t care, but all in all are decent people who form their opinions by emotion. We can talk to some of these, the others may be unreachable or uninterested. They still vote, sometimes. These are the nice, useful idiots who are sometimes surprised to find they support something that is bad, if ever scratch the surface.

2.) The True Believers. The dogmatic, spittle-lipped, fever-faced cannon fodder of the left. These people are the ones that swallow all the dogma of the left, hook, line, and sinker, and will do anything to advance it. They are Code Pink and MoveOn.org types. These are the people who cried when Hillary lost, and threatened to leave the country. These people are akin to the people in the Gulags who cried when Stalin, the man who put them there, died. I think many of these people are dangerous and unstable. I avoid these people like the plague, they not only cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be talked to. I met many of them at protests in DC. These are the people (when the last third of liberals described below come to power) who scream as they are dragged away “Wait! What are you doing this for? I am on your side!”

3.) The last third are evil. People like Clinton, Alinsky. Obama, Ayers, Cloward, and Piven. These people only want power and money, and they believe tyranny is the way to get both. They don’t believe for a second all the crap they preach. They only understand power, and have no moral framework to inhibit them in any way. These people are to be fought, not reasoned with.

It is true that a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. But the one-way ratchet that is liberalism has only one ending point when the ratchet has no more cable to pull in and no more teeth to grab. That ending point is tyranny and misery.

Conservatives have to practice introspection and reflection on the things we believe in, because we are hit with a flood of counter principles each day from the media, Hollywood, liberal politicians and people from all three groups described above. They are validated by each other and the flood of media. We have to think about these principles every day, turn them over and examine them to ensure we are viewing them correctly.

Liberals don’t have to do that. And they don’t. IMO, we can only talk to a portion of the people in group #1 above. The others are unreachable.


23 posted on 01/19/2017 2:35:20 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel

Watch out for bald assertions that can fail under circumstances that we may even have some power over, or see other factors having some power over.

Like that “one way ratchet.” This did not happen in a vacuum. It is not independent of all other factors.

I’m glad that we’re at least trying to think beyond our existing box at all. Even saying that not all Leftists are the same is a start. Let’s not stop with just a start. And the FR of the past is not our manifest destiny.


32 posted on 01/19/2017 2:40:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: rlmorel; HiTech RedNeck

People in the first group, and perhaps people drifting to the second, might benefit from conservatives asking them socratic questions about their positions.

http://www.umich.edu/~elements/probsolv/strategy/cthinking.htm


53 posted on 01/19/2017 3:08:50 PM PST by posterchild
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To: rlmorel

Great post. Thanks.


69 posted on 01/19/2017 3:25:47 PM PST by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: rlmorel

Bookmarking your post for later. Thanks!


115 posted on 01/19/2017 4:20:25 PM PST by nralife
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