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Donald Trump and the Tainted Presidency (Blow blows it)
The New York Times ^ | January 9, 2017 | Charles Blow

Posted on 01/09/2017 1:13:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The more we learn about Russia’s hacking and the release of its electronic loot during our presidential election, the more it becomes clear that Donald Trump’s victory and his imminent presidency are already tainted beyond redemption.

While Russian hacks “were not involved in vote tallying,” the publishing of pilfered emails and promulgation of fake news altered the zeitgeist, poisoned the political environment and shifted public opinion, all of which redounded to Trump’s benefit.

Donald Trump is as much Russia’s appointment as our elected executive. The legacy of his political ascendance will be written in Cyrillic and affixed with an asterisk.

Do not let this be buried in the pundits’ blathering: A hostile foreign power stole confidential correspondence from American citizens — this is no different than physically breaking into an American office and carting off boxes of written letters — and funneled that stolen material to a willing conspirator, Julian Assange. The foreign power then had its desired result achieved on our Election Day....

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: hillary; russia; trump; wikileaks
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Wow, they "altered the zeitgeist" you say? That's powerful. Maybe Hillary should've set foot in Wisconsin. What do you think?
1 posted on 01/09/2017 1:13:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear Charles Blow,

Opinions vary. Thanks so much for sharing yours. :)


2 posted on 01/09/2017 1:15:35 PM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone altered my zeitgeist once. When I tried to plug it in I got shocked and it started smoking.

Made a cool wormhole though.


3 posted on 01/09/2017 1:16:31 PM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Mr. Douglas

lol


4 posted on 01/09/2017 1:17:08 PM PST by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
--A hostile foreign power stole confidential correspondence from American citizens

--yeah--which proved that , among other things, the Clinton campaign hired provocateurs to incite riots at Trump rallies, along with further exposing the lack of internet security with top secret material , including exchanges with THE ONE--

5 posted on 01/09/2017 1:18:08 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>the publishing of pilfered emails and promulgation of fake news<<

How can publishing actual emails be “fake news?”

By definition, they are accurate and real.


6 posted on 01/09/2017 1:18:15 PM PST by freedumb2003 (obozo: not just the worst president in American history - worst *American* in American history (turf)
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To: Mr. Douglas

A truth hunt?That would be news coming from the likes of you.


7 posted on 01/09/2017 1:18:27 PM PST by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Had an investigative reporter released the emails the effect would have been the same so logically the source of the leaked/hacked emails is irrelevant.

What is relevant is that the emails exposed the truth about Clinton et al. How can telling the truth be bad? Should we not be grateful for finding out the truth?


8 posted on 01/09/2017 1:18:40 PM PST by MichaelRDanger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And, Mr. Blow ever supported Trump for anything, WHEN?


9 posted on 01/09/2017 1:20:16 PM PST by East Tennessee Redhead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pffft... and yet, still no denial of the egregious content of the leaks.
10 posted on 01/09/2017 1:20:17 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: Mr. Douglas

The aptly named Mr. Blow.


11 posted on 01/09/2017 1:20:56 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...Donald Trump’s victory and his imminent presidency are already tainted beyond redemption."

Left wing hyperbole propaganda nonsense.

12 posted on 01/09/2017 1:21:16 PM PST by GregoTX
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To: georgia peach

Ha! Your post confused me until I realized you were actually responding to the Article. :-)


13 posted on 01/09/2017 1:21:18 PM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: freedumb2003

‘How can publishing actual emails be “fake news?”’


Exactly. Never mind that they media focused solely on how the messages were obtained, completely ignoring what they actually contained.

Talk about fake news...


14 posted on 01/09/2017 1:23:25 PM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

what utter BS!

there’s not been one shread of proof provided any of us that Russia somehow managed to rig the voting machines from coast to coast, or anywhere in USA for that matter

the NYT is a terrible, awful newspaper (except their crossword puzzles are good). Full of distortions and propaganda BS


15 posted on 01/09/2017 1:25:37 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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Dear Charles Blow,

Many educated Americans (myself included) prefer RT to the NYT! And you’re the worst thing on the NYT.

If you want to get us to appreciate the NYT, tell your bosses to improve their product, and stop hassling people who read just a few articles to subscribe. Then fire yourself!!!!

Meanwhile, less-educated Americans—the majority of the people who voted for Donald Trump—never see RT!

So—all in all—the Russians had NOTHING to do with the election of Donald Trump, and his Presidency is NOT “tainted”! So GET OVER IT!!!!


16 posted on 01/09/2017 1:28:23 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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The more we learn about Russia’s hacking and the release of its electronic loot during our presidential election, the more it becomes clear that Donald Trump’s victory and his imminent presidency are already tainted beyond redemption.
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Tainted, like being born in a foreign country or subscribing to a religion that has sworn to dominate the world, with the U.S. as the jewel in the crown.

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While Russian hacks “were not involved in vote tallying,” the publishing of pilfered emails and promulgation of fake news altered the zeitgeist, poisoned the political environment and shifted public opinion, all of which redounded to Trump’s benefit.
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When we, the NY Slimes, pulls out German terminology you KNOW it’s serious. We might mention Weltanschauung, Fuhrer, Schadenfreude, Volkswagen, or Fahrvergnügen next.

By the way, what’s the German word for “sore loser”?

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Do not let this be buried in the pundits’ blathering: A hostile foreign power stole confidential correspondence from American citizens — this is no different than physically breaking into an American office and carting off boxes of written letters — and funneled that stolen material to a willing conspirator, Julian Assange.
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Or finding a box full of letters left laying around in a park, labeled

“Please do not steal this box. You will make Hillary Clinton very sad by doing so.

BOX OWNED BY JOHN PODESTA DO NOT OPEN”.


17 posted on 01/09/2017 1:29:27 PM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“promulgation of fake news”

Actually more aptly describes The Old Grey Dinosaur.


18 posted on 01/09/2017 1:29:29 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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Soooo, just out of curiosity, HAD the DNC NOT colluded with various parties to subvert the nomination process, would those hacks had made the slightest bit of difference?

No?

Right, blame the (hahahahah) whistleblower for the crimes of others. Has the Justice Department and the FEC announced when they are prosecuting people yet?

19 posted on 01/09/2017 1:29:29 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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>>By the way, what’s the German word for “sore loser”?<<

Gerfarthensplatzer


20 posted on 01/09/2017 1:32:09 PM PST by freedumb2003 (obozo: not just the worst president in American history - worst *American* in American history (turf)
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