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Never mind Wisconsin. California’s Presidential vote must be disqualified
Flopping Aces ^ | 11-28-16 | DrJohn

Posted on 11/28/2016 12:17:10 PM PST by Starman417

votefraudcalic

In California illegal aliens are allowed to obtain driver's licenses. Last year California passed a "motor voter" law. It stipulates that unless the applicant opts out, the applicant will automatically be added to the voter rolls. The potential for fraud is yuuge.

Tens of thousands of dead people are on the voting roles, many still “receive” their permanent absentee ballot. Illegal aliens are on the roles—thanks to the Democrats all an illegal alien has to do is get a California drivers license and they can register to vote, almost automatically. Then it is up to the County Registrar of Voters and the Secretary of State to vet them to assure they can legally vote. The Election Integrity Project in Los Angeles gave the LA Registrar 49,000 names of dead people, those that have moved or illegal aliens—and seemingly nothing has been done with that information.
This is an affront to all real citizens and it violates Federal law:
The official number of illegal aliens in the state of California is nearly 3 million. We can estimate the number to be more than double this amount in reality. Over half of all drivers license issued in California were given to individuals who are here illegally and the state automatically registers those with a driver’s license to vote. In 2015, California Governor Jerry Brown (D-CA) signed a bill giving full voting rights to illegal aliens. This gives them the right to vote in all elections from a local level to national elections, including that of choosing who will become President. The biggest problem with this is it is against Federal law for non-citizens to vote in any national election.
At least one study concludes that the 2008 election outcome was altered by illegal aliens voting:
In spite of substantial public controversy, very little reliable data exists concerning the frequency with which non-citizen immigrants participate in United States elections. Although such participation is a violation of election laws in most parts of the United States, enforcement depends principally on disclosure of citizenship status at the time of voter registration. This study examines participation rates by non-citizens using a nationally representative sample that includes non-citizen immigrants. We find that some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections. Non-citizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress.
The terminally left biased twits at snopes.com, God love 'em, say hey,  there's nothing to worry about because the law didn't really grant illegals a right to vote:
While it's true that undocumented people in California can obtain a driver's license, the state has not passed any laws which also gives them the right to vote. The New Motor Voter Act was passed in an effort to improve voter turnout, and while this law does automatically register citizens to vote when obtaining or renewing a driver's license, this only applies to citizens who are already eligible to vote.
Want to see why? They turn to California SoS Alex Padilla:
"... Automated voter registration is actually a more secure way of doing things," California Secretary of State Alex Padilla told HuffPost in September. Potential voters "have to demonstrate proof of age, the vast majority of time people are showing a birth certificate or a passport, which also reflects citizenship. That's arguably more secure than someone checking a box under penalty of perjury," Padilla said.
So let's have a peek at what neither snopes nor Padilla are not telling you:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016recount; aliens; ca2016; trump; wi2016
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To: newgeezer
It’s worse than I thought.

So many swamps to drain!

21 posted on 11/28/2016 12:57:05 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.)
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To: Starman417
Oh come on....padilla himself was on the news just this morning saying there is no cheating going on here.

What, you don't believe the SOS?

LOL

22 posted on 11/28/2016 12:57:40 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Starman417

http://prntly.com/2016/11/25/californias-millions-of-illegals-who-voted-causing-hillarys-popular-vote-count-to-rise/


23 posted on 11/28/2016 1:07:44 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: eyeamok

Sounds like a Great Test Case for Attorney General Giuliani. PROSECUTE California Officials as Accessories to Vote Fraud.
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AGREED , The DOJ needs to set standards for the states elections when the elections are for Federal offices ,, maybe give them 6-12 months to clean up their rules and voter rolls and then prosecute.


24 posted on 11/28/2016 1:11:18 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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To: Brilliant

The GOP should file a lawsuit demanding an injunction against CA officials. Put CA under federal supervision.
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We may get exactly that when they refuse to give up “Sanctuary Cities” ...


25 posted on 11/28/2016 1:13:10 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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To: Neidermeyer

maybe give them 6-12 months to clean up their rules and voter rolls and then prosecute.

WHY? Does the State give you time to Hide all your Assets before Prosecuting you for Stealing them in the First Place?

Just ARREST AND PROSECUTE, No Warning, Nothing, just Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits. and CIVIL ASSET FORFEITURE.


26 posted on 11/28/2016 1:17:01 PM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: ptsal

Calexit would be a blessing like Mana from heaven to the rest of the country.


27 posted on 11/28/2016 1:22:55 PM PST by BobinIL
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[[Tens of thousands of dead people are on the voting roles, many still “receive” their permanent absentee ballot.]]

They prolly even still receive SS too


28 posted on 11/28/2016 2:03:37 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Starman417

The problem with vote fraud is that neither R nor D has taken it seriously in the past and has not prosecuted it, even when the entire case is handed to them on a silver platter.

If Trump’s AG is serious about law-n-order all the Trump camp should not grandstand. It should quietly collect the evidence. Someone needs to do the ground work of interviewing the people who did not vote; but where someone else voted on their behalf. Unless honest people had a good ground game, we are totally unprepared to prosecute.

BTW, the worst grandstanding is exaggeration and mis-direction. There might be thousands of vote fraud. But no way is there millions.

And illegals are NOT the source of most vote fraud.

Natural born citizens who are navigators and community organizers are the perpetrators of most vote fraud. Their #1 motivation is not pushing their presidential candidate over the top. Their motivation is to impress their political connection so they continue to get funding. The system is typically set up with plausible deniability.

It takes O’Keefe on the inside to prove RICO and get the big fish.


29 posted on 11/28/2016 2:29:14 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: eyeamok

WHY?
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Because we might get what we want sooner... and if they refuse to correct the problems we have them..


30 posted on 11/28/2016 2:37:15 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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To: eyeamok

The DOJ’s voter integrity section should first force all states to comply with the motor voter law requiring they purge deceased, voters who have moved and non-citizens from their voter rolls. The DOJ can sue them to force this. Also, the commission that approves the individual state’s motor voter form can place a requirement, (such as Arizona attempted and that the Holder DOJ fought), that all registrations done on the federal motor voter form must include proof of citizenship. All of that can be done by the DOJ and the agencies without any involvement of Congress since the law already exist allowing these actions.


31 posted on 11/28/2016 7:33:52 PM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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