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1 posted on 11/24/2016 10:09:10 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Most are nothing but parasites anyway. Purge the whole lot.


2 posted on 11/24/2016 10:11:55 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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Every winter when a couple of snowflakes fall, they send home all non-essential personnel...Sounds like they will now send them home permanently...It’s highly entertaining watching the snowflakes fall...


3 posted on 11/24/2016 10:13:32 AM PST by FDNYRHEROES (Forget pressing 1 or 2......Press 3 for "impeachment"....)
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The more they bare it the better for America.


4 posted on 11/24/2016 10:13:52 AM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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Fire them all and start over again. Each applicant would have to submit a resume with the job application just like civilians. Salaries would be 20% LESS THAN private sector salaries.


5 posted on 11/24/2016 10:14:54 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: markomalley

Post/comments (here and there) BUMP!


6 posted on 11/24/2016 10:25:35 AM PST by PGalt (CONGRATULATIONS Donald J. Trump)
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To: markomalley

At one time government work paid a lot less, the trade off was job security. Over the years wages passed by the private sector and the security continued. Now we have a ruling class that we must work to support.

Don’t get me wrong, I know there are some really good and devoted people in those jobs. Unfortunately, there are 20 bad ones for every good one. Public sector unions need to be outlawed, agencies should be cut. Government needs to be run like a business


7 posted on 11/24/2016 10:26:34 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: markomalley

Defenestrate the mandarin class.


8 posted on 11/24/2016 10:32:28 AM PST by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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Extraction of superfluous government workers is neccessary
9 posted on 11/24/2016 10:33:25 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: markomalley

The federal employee program is affirmative action central.


10 posted on 11/24/2016 10:35:19 AM PST by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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The federal employee program is affirmative action central.


11 posted on 11/24/2016 10:35:20 AM PST by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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After I semi-retired from the corporate world, I did some contract work, mostly on Pentagon sponsored projects... and what an eye-opening experience.

One project was in conjunction with Howard University, geared to attracting students to come get a free education in exchange for learning Arabic or Chinese and later working for the government.

Another was building an online tool for CEO's to use to gauge their "readiness" for a flu pandemic.

Everyone I worked with was slow... stupid... and couldn't care less about cost or actual results. It was absolutely incredible how much waste there was relative to what I had been used to in the corporate world where cost and results do matter.

12 posted on 11/24/2016 10:36:01 AM PST by Cementjungle
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While stationed near DC in the Air Force in the 60s, Sharon and I visited an aunt and uncle in College Park, Md.

One morning I noticed that my uncle came down to breakfast and peered out the window at his neighbors’ driveways. He was a private sector electronics engineer who was heavily involved in the development of the first instrument landing systems for airports. Nearly all his neighbors held government jobs.

One morning I asked him about his routine of peering at their driveways. He responded that he was always happy to see their cars still there as it meant that they weren’t downtown wasting office supplies and making life miserable for the rest of us.

After spending 30+ years trying to make a living in what little remains of the private sector here, I fully understand why he felt the way he did.

And can someone tell me why, when there is some lower severity situation or natural event, the government sends out word that only ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES SHOULD REPORT FOR “WORK?” It begs the question WHY THE DOES A TAXPAYER FUNDED BUREAUCRACY EVEN HAVE “NON-ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES”??


13 posted on 11/24/2016 10:43:39 AM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 4TH STATE HERE HAS BECOME A 5TH COLUMN. TREASON TRIALS COMING?)
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Here we go again. Lumping all government workers in with those who truly do not earn their keep gives the ones who ARE working hard a bad rap.

Why don't you people do a better job of letting others know that there are those who work for Uncle Sam who do good work and get paid peanuts.

14 posted on 11/24/2016 10:44:13 AM PST by ducttape45 (Obama's legacy - Christianity outlawed, America shamed, morality destroyed. Need I say more?)
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Reince was very close to the reform process Gov. Walker implemented in WI.


17 posted on 11/24/2016 10:47:53 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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I have some friends and relatives in the public sector. They are very good, very competent people, but when it comes to talking about work there is a very palpable culture shock.

They have no concept of what those of us in the dreaded private sector have to go through when it comes to health insurance. They may complain about having co-pays, that’s the extent of their difficulties. No deductibles, monthly payments, etc.

They get vacation days, floating holidays, comp time, mental health days and if one took the time to add up the time they actually spend working they’d probably be considered part-time in the private sector.

And it is sad to see smart, hard-working people wither somewhat under a system that penalizes drive and ambition. Many of their co-workers are barnacles and get the same rewards for half the effort, so they begin to wonder “why bother” and their own work ethic starts to wane.

Many state and federal departments are glorified adult day care centers. End them.


20 posted on 11/24/2016 10:59:50 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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I’m getting very weary of the demonization of all Government employees.

I worked private sector for 25 years before joining the federal government. It took ten years to catch up to my private sector salary and the benefits....there is no comparison....I definitely have less now and that goes for holidays and vacation time too.

The trade off for me is serving my country in the best way I can...I was not physically able to do military service. I still remember taking my oath of office and I took it seriously.

The viciousness here is off the charts.


25 posted on 11/24/2016 11:17:03 AM PST by mom4melody
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Do guvies who died in the Pentagon on 9/11 earn their “keep” or just deserve their deaths?


26 posted on 11/24/2016 11:20:42 AM PST by Reily
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I see the opinion of government workers is still very negative.

When I retired from the active side of military, in 1995, I didn’t feel I was sellable to the world and went back to college for my second degree. Then I found out how right I was. For the jobs I wasn’t over qualified for, I found I was underpaid by so much that even with my small retirement, one highly over rated by people, my family couldn’t even break even financially. So when a government NAF job came open with the department of the army, I jumped at it. And we got by.

When my employers found out the knowledge I had was extensive, I was promoted to a civil service position and a raise in pay. That awarded me controlling facilities, supervising, training troops, and working 365 days a year. I did that for 12 years until my health finally collapsed and they retired me medically. So I live on that pittance and get by.

So before you consider us overpaid and under worked, consider that the majority of the military members work at not a lot over minimum wage, are on duty 24/7, are escorted into areas where hundreds are trying to kill them in a variety of ways, and most do not have a way to support themselves in the real world. Many of the civilians are also required to go into those same areas, and face the same things. Most of the jobs we did are needed there also. My career field was one of them.

A lot of past military members are employed to do the job needed for the many facets of the mission. The rate of disability of those members is, in 2013 by the GAO, a little over 50%. Try to find another profession outside of law enforcement with those numbers. There aren’t many. The big falacy on them was that after retirement, using all the facets of capabilities, they would earn over $100K annually. But what they failed to tell anyone was the amount of people attached to that figure was less than 4% of the entire retiree total for the US. And even though I am retired disabled, from all three sourced possible, I don’t make anywhere near that. And if you want to get the chance to see how many of the other half lives, visit a VA hospital an see how your money is being used. It might help you form a new opinion of seeing the cost by these people that chose to put themselvs into the pot. And I can promise you there are a lot more of those that the public thinks have homes in the Hamptons.

red


27 posted on 11/24/2016 11:21:08 AM PST by Redwood71
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I have more reason than most to dislike government General Schedule employees.

But I wouldn’t just go in and send them all home.

The first thing to do is free-up the private sector. Fair trade. No needless government oversight or regulations. Realize that “the business of America is business”.

Give the government employees somewhere better to go.

For the rest who are retired on the job, institute a new government pay chart. Make it like the VA Magic Disability Chart. No explanation, it just is. Turnabout is fair play.


29 posted on 11/24/2016 11:30:23 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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For those that read the article, did you catch the reference to Scott Walker? Do you remember what really P.O'd the Unions in WI w/ his "Paycheck Protection"? ( It wasn't fully right to work if my memory is correct ) The Union's agreed to his cost cutting proposals but were vehemently opposed to Union Members having to pay for their Union Dues by cutting a check, rather than it coming out of their pay automatically

So can DJT do that ( make Federal Union Workers cut the check themselves ) by Executive Order? What the hey, their pay is coming from Treasury No? If so he is in control of Treasury, so I ask why not?

30 posted on 11/24/2016 11:31:14 AM PST by taildragger (Do you hear the people singing? The Song of Angry Men!....)
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