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The Transition Trump has a plan for government workers. They’re not going to like it
Against Crony Capitalism ^ | 11-23-2016

Posted on 11/24/2016 10:09:10 AM PST by markomalley

As a longtime resident of government employee country I say this plan couldn’t come soon enough. The bureaucracy in DC is massive, expensive, and entitled. Given the degree to which technology could easily reduce the bloat in the city and beyond wins should come early and relatively easily.

Wins for taxpayers anyway. Washington, the “imperial city” won’t like it and will scream bloody murder. On the other hand recent reports said that up to 35% of federal workers said they’d consider quitting their jobs if Trump became president. I say we call em’ on it.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: federalemployees; layoffs; md2016; trumpagenda; trumptransition; va2016
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To: unixfox

Fire everyone making over $75k a year and then fire at least half of who are left.


21 posted on 11/24/2016 11:06:22 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: 38special

“The federal employee program is affirmative action central.”

You got that right. It is also nepotism central. About 20 percent are hard working dedicated individuals and the rest are part of a bloated manager heavy system where as long as you are the right sex and color you don’t have to worry about working.


22 posted on 11/24/2016 11:08:38 AM PST by TonyM
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To: LostInBayport

I am a retired federal manager, grabbed early retirement first time eligible, left and lived happily ever after. Until 1980 or so, federal employment was credible and to some extent fulfilling, particularly is you worked for an agency like NASA where I started. It all fell apart with affirmative action, hiring quotas, non-merit promotion preferences, the advent of public unions and the like. I am sure progressives would say the “good old days with white guys in charge” was racist, sexist, homophobic” et. al. To which I would reply..not likely and the American public was much better served by those days and those guys at about 1/2 the cost.


23 posted on 11/24/2016 11:15:41 AM PST by yetidog
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To: Hambone 1934
Guy I worked with,had joined the navy and was there for 10 years..He would tell me about the Times the high brass would come on board and the crew were told to toss machines etc into the sea..Some of it was brand new.Buuuut,if you had the items,your budget got cut..He said they were always getting more money for newer items.He joked if people could go to the bottom of the ocean there would be thousands of military hardware rotting away....

We did that in the corporate world too. If there was money left in the budget toward the end of the year we would spend it otherwise face having a smaller budget the next year.

But, I imagine its ten times worse in the public sector.

A few years ago when I lived in WA, I worked on some stuff with the mayor of Bremerton. She often confided in me that she could run the city with half the employees she has and nothing would change.

24 posted on 11/24/2016 11:16:10 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: markomalley

I’m getting very weary of the demonization of all Government employees.

I worked private sector for 25 years before joining the federal government. It took ten years to catch up to my private sector salary and the benefits....there is no comparison....I definitely have less now and that goes for holidays and vacation time too.

The trade off for me is serving my country in the best way I can...I was not physically able to do military service. I still remember taking my oath of office and I took it seriously.

The viciousness here is off the charts.


25 posted on 11/24/2016 11:17:03 AM PST by mom4melody
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To: markomalley

Do guvies who died in the Pentagon on 9/11 earn their “keep” or just deserve their deaths?


26 posted on 11/24/2016 11:20:42 AM PST by Reily
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To: markomalley

I see the opinion of government workers is still very negative.

When I retired from the active side of military, in 1995, I didn’t feel I was sellable to the world and went back to college for my second degree. Then I found out how right I was. For the jobs I wasn’t over qualified for, I found I was underpaid by so much that even with my small retirement, one highly over rated by people, my family couldn’t even break even financially. So when a government NAF job came open with the department of the army, I jumped at it. And we got by.

When my employers found out the knowledge I had was extensive, I was promoted to a civil service position and a raise in pay. That awarded me controlling facilities, supervising, training troops, and working 365 days a year. I did that for 12 years until my health finally collapsed and they retired me medically. So I live on that pittance and get by.

So before you consider us overpaid and under worked, consider that the majority of the military members work at not a lot over minimum wage, are on duty 24/7, are escorted into areas where hundreds are trying to kill them in a variety of ways, and most do not have a way to support themselves in the real world. Many of the civilians are also required to go into those same areas, and face the same things. Most of the jobs we did are needed there also. My career field was one of them.

A lot of past military members are employed to do the job needed for the many facets of the mission. The rate of disability of those members is, in 2013 by the GAO, a little over 50%. Try to find another profession outside of law enforcement with those numbers. There aren’t many. The big falacy on them was that after retirement, using all the facets of capabilities, they would earn over $100K annually. But what they failed to tell anyone was the amount of people attached to that figure was less than 4% of the entire retiree total for the US. And even though I am retired disabled, from all three sourced possible, I don’t make anywhere near that. And if you want to get the chance to see how many of the other half lives, visit a VA hospital an see how your money is being used. It might help you form a new opinion of seeing the cost by these people that chose to put themselvs into the pot. And I can promise you there are a lot more of those that the public thinks have homes in the Hamptons.

red


27 posted on 11/24/2016 11:21:08 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s a little tricky. First you need to identify those actually doing the work. And you can’t be sure that those in charge will identify the actual workers , as they may be a threat to their own jobs. But you do want to keep the 30% that actually get things done. If you do identify them they will be much more effective after the 70% are removed.


28 posted on 11/24/2016 11:26:58 AM PST by D Rider
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To: markomalley

I have more reason than most to dislike government General Schedule employees.

But I wouldn’t just go in and send them all home.

The first thing to do is free-up the private sector. Fair trade. No needless government oversight or regulations. Realize that “the business of America is business”.

Give the government employees somewhere better to go.

For the rest who are retired on the job, institute a new government pay chart. Make it like the VA Magic Disability Chart. No explanation, it just is. Turnabout is fair play.


29 posted on 11/24/2016 11:30:23 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: markomalley
For those that read the article, did you catch the reference to Scott Walker? Do you remember what really P.O'd the Unions in WI w/ his "Paycheck Protection"? ( It wasn't fully right to work if my memory is correct ) The Union's agreed to his cost cutting proposals but were vehemently opposed to Union Members having to pay for their Union Dues by cutting a check, rather than it coming out of their pay automatically

So can DJT do that ( make Federal Union Workers cut the check themselves ) by Executive Order? What the hey, their pay is coming from Treasury No? If so he is in control of Treasury, so I ask why not?

30 posted on 11/24/2016 11:31:14 AM PST by taildragger (Do you hear the people singing? The Song of Angry Men!....)
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To: knarf

I wish I had your confidence.


31 posted on 11/24/2016 11:33:58 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Dick Bachert

The term non-essential does not mean they are not needed. It means when a problem requires the base to go into threatcon, that a number of services the military member normally needs, will be cut back and/or some services curtailed completely. It also means that those people to run them would be placed in unneeded danger.

An example is a fitness facility. That building will be shut down, but still manned because it may be needed for a fallout shelter, a decon station, or a refugee center to house threatened people on the base/post, or in some cases, from the real world outside the gates for any natural disasters as capable or designated. And it takes trained people to run that. So people that can’t do anything to help it, may not, and I say may not because all are trained to do that job and others may not be able to get there, get the call.

So the term is a little misleading. It all depends on what they need.

red


32 posted on 11/24/2016 11:35:33 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: markomalley

Unrecognize Gov’t unions by POTUS.

Eliminate all pensions.

Get rid of 1/3 of govt workers.


33 posted on 11/24/2016 11:44:58 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Hambone 1934

I never saw that happen. As a former Weapons/Combat Systems officer on a CG, whatever the other departments couldn’t spend went to the Chief Engineer and me. We never had a problem spending any flavor of funding; nothing on the SPY-1 radar is cheap.


34 posted on 11/24/2016 11:58:54 AM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Reily

“Do guvies who died in the Pentagon on 9/11 earn their “keep” or just deserve their deaths?”

Irrelevant and silly. Stick your violin up your ass.


35 posted on 11/24/2016 11:59:03 AM PST by Bayan
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To: markomalley

As a former federal employee, I KNOW that this is way past overdue to occur!!!

It took over THREE YEARS to fire a federal employee, who had a love affiar with the bottle, while working as a federal inspector at an aircraft manufacturing plant!!!

“Does the federal union officers do their union work during work hours, and get their federal paycheck, for it?”
Yes, Virginia, they DO!!


36 posted on 11/24/2016 12:27:10 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

Trump doesn’t require Congressional legislation to end federal unionization. He can undo JFK executive order which allowed with one disallowing it! It can happen on day one!
Even FDR thought government unions were a stupid idea.


37 posted on 11/24/2016 12:30:02 PM PST by Reily
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To: Cobra64

Those are the words from Trump in the article.


38 posted on 11/24/2016 12:30:41 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Bayan

What a clever counter argument ! You must win all the debates at the glee club.


39 posted on 11/24/2016 12:31:15 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily

Dear Reily,

re:”He can undo JFK executive order which allowed with one disallowing it! It can happen on day one!”

I would love to be the fly on the wall for that one, when the word is passed down to the federal union officials!!

Now that raises a question .... how many others are there that are just ripe for undoing, prior to Obama????


40 posted on 11/24/2016 12:57:29 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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