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1 posted on 10/24/2016 9:06:21 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

The elite are fine with it.


2 posted on 10/24/2016 9:07:43 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: Lorianne

wow! count on the media to be all over this 2 weeks before an election


3 posted on 10/24/2016 9:08:12 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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To: Lorianne

I seriously suggest that everybody ignore any questions or discussion of Social Security. His trotted out every election to beat up on conservatives and Republicans. There is no upside to discussing it. It is what it is. It is not a factor in this election nor is it one in most elections.


4 posted on 10/24/2016 9:09:36 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Trump/Pence or Crooked Hillary & Kreepy, The Pedo Klown)
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To: Lorianne

They’ll implement a Tobin Tax and eliminate the earnings cap. Shovel more tax money into it. It’s the only solution that is politically possible.


5 posted on 10/24/2016 9:11:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Lorianne

50 yr old “news”.


6 posted on 10/24/2016 9:12:38 AM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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All things considered, it’s becoming apparent that Americans can no longer rely on Social Security to provide them with a stable or comfortable retirement.

LOL. SS was never designed to give people a stable/comfortable retirement.

7 posted on 10/24/2016 9:13:02 AM PDT by kabar
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I wouldn't worry, the fixed-income retired sector can just make it up with their near-zero interest savings accounts and CDs.

As long as they have billions.

8 posted on 10/24/2016 9:13:29 AM PDT by C210N
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Change the system. Make the increase the same across the board. $20.00 a month OR based on another inflation formula....whichever is greater. It would be the same to a poor person as it is to a rich one.

Also you need a minimum.

Of course, the last time there was a decent raise...I got $16 a month...and the Medicare Part B increase took $15 of it. Obviously...another flaw.

10 posted on 10/24/2016 9:14:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Lorianne

This is because they are adding illegals to it at an astronomic rate and letting just about anyone claim disability.


12 posted on 10/24/2016 9:20:44 AM PDT by circlecity
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“All things considered, it’s becoming apparent that Americans can no longer rely on Social Security to provide them with a stable or comfortable retirement.”

Stupid Americans thinking that Socialist Insecurity was to be their sole retirement nest egg are getting what they deserve.


13 posted on 10/24/2016 9:22:46 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: Lorianne
it’s becoming apparent that Americans can no longer rely on Social Security to provide them with a stable or comfortable retirement.

Anyone who ever did rely on SS was a damn fool. And the people who invented it, foisted it of on us, and lied about it were (and are) evil. In some ways, Franklin Roosevelt was worse than 0bama. Franklin Roosevelt made 0bama possible.

14 posted on 10/24/2016 9:26:49 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: Such a nasty woman ...)
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To: Lorianne

A zero (essentially) increase, while COL goes up 3% is a 3% decrease.

The COL for medical care, a huge component of expense for recipients, is up way more than 3%.

It’s a tax on the middle class.

It’s punishing the savers and achievers, in many cases.

It’s to be expected.


16 posted on 10/24/2016 9:28:38 AM PDT by cicero2k
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The coming disaster has several factors. The Social Security software must be as defective as the IRS and ACA software.

I’m almost 73. My wife and I repeatedly get letters from SSA that contradict previous letters SSA sent. They do not have an accurate record of money withheld from my paychecks over the years. They do not have an accurate record of what I am or am not owed, or what I have been paid.

I haven’t responded to any of the letters (yet). I’d probably be wasting my time trying to educate them.


19 posted on 10/24/2016 9:34:57 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Lorianne

Yeah I’ll be rich...


20 posted on 10/24/2016 10:06:37 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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To: Lorianne

Lois Lerner’s government retirement is $102,600 a year.


21 posted on 10/24/2016 10:08:57 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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comfortable retirement....

I think that those two words used in tandem will disappear from people's vocabulary.

When I go to stores, I see more and more "retirement-age" folks stocking the shelves and cashiering. Its a sign of the times.

22 posted on 10/24/2016 10:10:59 AM PDT by bkopto
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Then stop pouring billions down rat holes in h*ll hole countries who hats us and FIX IT!!!


23 posted on 10/24/2016 10:51:08 AM PDT by patriot08 (5th generation Texan-(girl type) ANGRY? REFUSE TO VOTE? VOTING 3RD PARTY? HELLO HILLARY!!!)
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Thank you for referencing that article Lorianne. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Patriots are reminded that many federal social spending progams, including Social Security and Obamacare, are based on an incorrect interpretation of the Constitution’s General Walfare Clause (GWC; 1.8.1) by FDR era lawmakers and justices imo.

Let’s begin this brief discussion with the following clarification of the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers by a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting activist justices. The Court had explained, in terms of the 10th Amendment, that powers that the states have not expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds are prohibited to the feds.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

The major constitutional problem with federal programs like Social Security and Obamacare is this. FDR’s low-information justices wrongy agreed with misguided Congress that the GWC is a specific delegation of power to establish things like Social Security and Obamacare. But if the post-17th Amendment ratification federal leaders at that time had done their homework in law school they would probably have been aware of the following.

When James Madison, Madison generally regarded as the father of the Constitution, had vetoed the public works bill of 1817, he had noted the following in the constitutionally required veto explanation.

Madison indicated that the Founding States had not intended for the GWC to be understood as a specific delegation of power to Congress, but as an introductory clause for the rest of the clauses in Section 8 which followed it, those clauses intended as specific delegations of power.

”To refer the power in question to the clause "to provide for common defense and general welfare" would be contrary to the established and consistent rules of interpretation, as rendering the special and careful enumeration of powers which follow the clause nugatory and improper. Such a view of the Constitution would have the effect of giving to Congress a general power of legislation instead of the defined and limited one hitherto understood to belong to them, the terms "common defense and general welfare" embracing every object and act within the purview of a legislative trust.” —James Madison, Veto of federal public works bill, 1817

Note that “government” spending programs like Social Security and Obamacare have always been possible under the 10th Amendment, each state having the power to establish its own programs.

But in order for the constitutionally limited power federal government to establish such programs the states must first delegate to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for such programs, the states never doing so for Social Security and Obamacare.

In fact, all that the establishment of Obamacare did was to prove how corrupt all three branches of the unconstitutionally big federal government are imo.

28 posted on 10/24/2016 11:58:24 AM PDT by Amendment10
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If we didn’t give so much of America’s money away to others, we could double the SS benefit.


30 posted on 10/24/2016 12:58:49 PM PDT by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))
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