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Greenfield: Will Hillary Accept Defeat?
The Sultan Knish blog ^ | Sunday, October 23, 2016 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/24/2016 7:25:51 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell

Sunday, October 23, 2016

Will Hillary Accept Defeat?

Posted by Daniel Greenfield

The headlines are in. Trump is the “anti-Democratic” candidate because he refuses to rule out challenging the results of an election that has yet to take place. Such a course of action is “beyond the pale”. It’s a threat to democracy. And it is utterly and thoroughly unacceptable.

Except when Democrats do it.

It was the day after the election. While the Democratic Party faithful waited in the rain in Nashville, William Daley strode out and announced, “Our campaign continues”. Al Gore had called George W. Bush to withdraw his concession. “Are you saying what I think you’re saying?" a baffled Bush asked. “You don’t have to be snippy about it," Gore retorted snippily.

Gore did eventually concede. Though years later he would attempt to retract his concession a second time. But his political movement never did concede. It remained a widespread belief in left-wing circles that President Bush was illegitimately elected and that President Gore was the real winner.

How mainstream is that belief?

When Hillary dragged Gore away from playing with his Earth globe to campaign for her, the crowd booed at his mention of the election and then chanted, “You won, you won”.

Hillary grinned and nodded.

Hillary Clinton has always believed that President Bush illegitimately took office. She has told Democrats that Bush was “selected” rather than “elected”. In Nigeria, of all places, she implied that Jeb Bush had rigged the election for his brother.

But it’s not unprecedented, beyond the pale or utterly unacceptable when Democrats do it.

It’s just business as usual.

The media’s focus has been on whether Trump would accept the results if he loses. Yet a better question might be whether Hillary Clinton would accept her defeat.

Even when it came to the battle for the Democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton refused to concede defeat until the bitter end and then past it. Not only did Hillary refuse to drop out even when Obama was the clear winner, while her people threatened a convention floor fight, but she insisted on staying on in the race for increasingly bizarre and even downright disturbing reasons.

In South Dakota, Hillary explained that there was no reason for her to drop out because somebody might shoot Barack Obama, "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California."

There’s something disturbing in the revelation that Hillary was basing her decision to stay in the race in the hope that her rival would be assassinated.

Obama’s spokesman said that her remark “has no place in this campaign”. But it had a place inside Hillary Clinton’s very warped brain which preferred to see Obama die than concede the election to him.

If that’s how Hillary felt about a fellow Democrat, imagine how she feels about Trump.

Even after Obama had clinched the delegate votes, Hillary’s speech brought back the Gore argument insisting that, “Nearly 18 million of you cast your votes for our campaign, carrying the popular vote with more votes than any primary candidate in history. Even when the pundits and the naysayers proclaimed week after week that this race was over, you kept on voting.”

Then the fabulously wealthy Hillary asked those 18 million people to go to her website and give her money while refusing to make any decision on ending her campaign. It took her another day to do that.

It’s not as if the Obama side was any better. It was arguably worse. Governor Wilder, an Obama ally, threatened a return of the 1968 Chicago Democratic convention riots if Hillary won. "If you think 1968 was bad, you watch; in 2008, it will be worse,” Wilder warned.

Unprecedented. Outrageous. Beyond the pale. Except this is how Democrats act even to each other.

Now how would they respond to a Trump victory? Would they urge Hillary to concede or to fight on? Would they stage more riots while claiming voter disenfranchisement had stolen the election?

Hillary Clinton has made it clear that she views Trump’s candidacy as illegitimate. She has called him “unfit” and described his supporters as “deplorables”. Democrats, all the way up to the White House, are constantly accusing Republicans of scheming to disenfranchise voters. These “schemes” involve asking undocumented Democrats to show some ID instead of relying on an honor system and removing illegitimate voters from the rolls. But beyond enabling voter fraud, such arguments can easily be employed to attack the legitimacy of a Republican winner. They provide the fodder for another Florida.

Does anyone really believe that Hillary Clinton, who couldn’t even graciously concede to Obama will graciously concede to Trump?

And, given the fact that Hillary won the nomination by using the DNC to rig the process, leading to the resignation of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, are Trump’s concerns of a rigged election illegitimate?

Donald Trump has clarified that he would accept “a clear election result” but that he was “being asked to waive centuries of legal precedent designed to protect the voters.”

And he’s right. No one preemptively cedes elections. And Hillary Clinton has faced accusations of abusive and fraudulent tactics from Democratic rivals in two different presidential elections.

Why should Republicans assume that she’ll treat them better than she treated Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders?

Not all that long ago, the left wanted Gore to fight to the bitter end. A Gore adviser recalled, "People were calling us from everywhere, telling us, 'Don't concede.'" Left-wing voices urged Bernie Sanders to stay in the race long after it became obvious that the left-winger had no realistic path to victory left.

But the same behavior that is virtuous when Democrats do it becomes an unpardonable sin when Republicans take it up.

That’s a pernicious double standard that cannot and should not be allowed to stand.

When Democrats warn of voter disenfranchisement, the media backs them up. When Republicans complain about voter fraud, they are accused of voter suppression. When Democrats fight elections past the point that they’re lost, then they are courageous. But when Republicans do it, they are a threat to democracy.

But democracy does not mean Democratic Party rule. That’s just the mistake that the media makes.

Whatever rules we have, run both ways. Any practices, new or old, also apply to both sides. If challenging election results is legitimate, then it is so for both sides. Whatever options were available to Gore and Hillary cannot help but be available to Trump.

That is how democracy, rather than Democratic Party rule, works.


TOPICS: History; Politics
KEYWORDS: assassination; concede; concession; defeat; demagogicparty; greenfield; hillaryclinton; johnpodesta; sultanknish; surrendermeme
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To: Louis Foxwell

Don’t forget Stuart Smalley and the 2008 Senate election in Minnesota.


21 posted on 10/24/2016 8:28:49 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
The headlines are in. Trump is the “anti-Democratic” candidate because he refuses to rule out challenging the results of an election that has yet to take place.

Actually, I think it is a good sign that they are making this attack against Trump. It means they believe, or know, they will lose and they want to be able to challenge the results because Trump said he would not accept the results. And no, they will not feel the least bit hypocritical about it, nor will the media mention it.

22 posted on 10/24/2016 8:31:50 AM PDT by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: Louis Foxwell

She’ll accept defeat with about as much grounds and class as Gore did.


23 posted on 10/24/2016 8:34:53 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: arthurus
I think it is not beyond the pale given what has happened this election cycle. The elites are united in opposition to Trump and the movement that he represents.

If it happens it will not just be her though. The Dem party, the media and the pro-Clinton wing of the GOP, i.e. the GOPe, will be 100% involved in such an effort. This would all happen before Trump took office so he would not be able to do much about it except in the courts.

24 posted on 10/24/2016 8:37:02 AM PDT by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: arthurus

“Rioters will be shot”
“Survivors will be shot again”

A couple of phrases I’m looking forward to from President Trump.

CC


25 posted on 10/24/2016 8:39:16 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: DuncanWaring

And Christine Gregoire in Washington state.


26 posted on 10/24/2016 8:39:26 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Fred Hayek

If that happens, she will become target #1.


27 posted on 10/24/2016 8:43:05 AM PDT by 353FMG (TRUMP IS ALL THAT MATTERS)
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To: TheDon

I can see the networks and the NYT and WaPo et al explicitly calling for insurrection in the ghettos and less explicitly for the killing of police and perhaps Republicans and/or Christians.


28 posted on 10/24/2016 10:14:26 AM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: TheDon

Thinking again of Hillary’s mental condition- I believe she is sinking into dementia pretty quickly as witness her need for a teleprompter at the debates- and won’t be capable of accepting or rejecting defeat. She will be more and more a Soros puppet and he will speak through her mouth so long as her mind can continue to form sentences for her mouth to utter.


29 posted on 10/24/2016 10:17:14 AM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: originalbuckeye

“Obama’s minions are scurrying from appointed jobs to secure, tenured jobs from which they cannot be fired. Trump is going to have his work cut out for him......he must CLEAN HOUSE and get rid of those who would undermine him.”


OK, fine, two can play at that game.

Trump should order all of these employees to the new federal facility in Ft. Yukon, Alaska. Oh, there’s no building there yet for these people? OK, fine, the Army Corps of Engineers can build something from local materials (i.e. logs)...and get some help from these federal employees to chop the trees down. They still get their normal vacations, but travel time to and from Ft. Yukon is a bit longer than from DC or some big Lower 48 city...so they’ll really only have about 4 days off if they take 2 weeks. Too bad, comes with the job. Don’t like the working conditions? Fine - then quit.


30 posted on 10/24/2016 1:26:33 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Carl Vehse

“When Hillay loses, expect far more more Demonicrat violence in the streets than occurred with the leftist BLM domestic terrorists.”


Bring it. Us normal citizens are tired of a bunch of unruly kids rioting and making problems for all the rest of us...and by “kids” I mean anyone of any age who ACTS like a spoiled little brat.


31 posted on 10/24/2016 1:28:20 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Louis Foxwell

I am pretty convinced that this election will be challenged, no matter how it comes out.

If Trump “loses,” it’ll be at least partially because of the fraud we know to be out there.

If Hillary loses, she’ll blame it on the Russians and claim that Trump was involved in the “cheating.” She and her minions in the media have already set the table by having poll after poll come out and say that she is winning...so if she loses, it can ONLY be because of cheating.

No she won’t accept defeat. She will make Sore-Loserman seem like a couple of kids fighting in the sandbox.


32 posted on 10/24/2016 1:33:15 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Will Hillary accept defeat?>>>>>>>>>

Look what happened to the White Hut when the Clintons had to vacate for Bush and not Al Gorp.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/702267/posts

No, Hillary will not go quietly into the night.Unless someone pulls her plug,or stops her course of daily injections.


33 posted on 10/24/2016 1:44:22 PM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Louis Foxwell; Fred Nerks

The shrill screeching of the Wicked Witch of the West
and her designated media propagandists proves one thing.

Trump is winning, pulling in crowds of 10 to 20 thousand with 5 thousand strong waiting lines outside his venues, and now Hillery thinks she can win on electoral votes even if Trump attains the popular vote?

It won’t be close despite what Hillarys Push Polls say, who want everyone to conclude that the Wicked Witch has already one because caterwauling, shrill women to not want a groping titty twister as president? Americans are smarter than that. They do not want Iranian nukes falling on them in 3 years or so.

Then why is the shrill propaganda still continuing even though Hitlery has already won? Eh?

BUahahahahahahahahaha!

Nah, Hillary, The American People are coming for YOU. And they will relegate you and the Obama crowd to the dust bin of history.


34 posted on 10/24/2016 4:56:18 PM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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