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Question about long term fuel storage
Question ^ | 10/6/16 | Rebelbase

Posted on 10/07/2016 12:39:24 PM PDT by Rebelbase

No link at source. Question:

Regarding long term storage of gasoline are there any stabilizer alternatives other than Stabil?

What was used prior to Stabil?

Does non-ethanol Gasoline keep longer than the ethanol type?

Google has a mess of stuff that mostly circled back to Stabil.

Thank-you for helping.


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I've read bits here and there about people using kerosene, STP gas treatment, SeaFoam, etc. in lieu of Stabil.

Does anyone here use a generic type alternative fuel stabilizer?

1 posted on 10/07/2016 12:39:24 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

Sea foam works for me


2 posted on 10/07/2016 12:42:15 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Rebelbase

Ethanol attracts water and will separate over time. This has ruined many a lawnmower allowed to sit over the winter. You want ethanol-free if you plan on storing it.

Can’t offer any advice on alternate stabilizers.


3 posted on 10/07/2016 12:44:45 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Rebelbase

I have used Stabil, Star-Tron, and Sea Foam to preserve E10 gasoline over winter. I have had no problems with any of them.


4 posted on 10/07/2016 12:46:03 PM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: Rebelbase

I’ve only used the Stabil Marine (blue). It prevents against ethanol-related damage. I rotate every six months from my 5 USGI Scepter fuel cans.


5 posted on 10/07/2016 12:46:49 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Dan(9698)

I have access to non-ethanol and store that. Does it keep longer without fuel stabilizer than does the E-gass?


6 posted on 10/07/2016 12:50:41 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Bill and Hillary for ADX Supermax!)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Snow blower has had gas in it two years and not started. What do I do?


7 posted on 10/07/2016 12:51:34 PM PDT by ncfool ( We are in the United Socialist State of aMeriKa. The USSA. Sheeple of aMeriKa follow hil-LIAR-ly)
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To: Rebelbase
Archoil’s fuel additive does a few other things, in addition to stabilizing for a year:

http://www.archoil.com/ar6000-fuel-treatments/

I've used that and the oil friction modifier with success.

8 posted on 10/07/2016 12:51:43 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Rebelbase
It still needs stabilizer. A stabilizer reduces varnish deposits.
9 posted on 10/07/2016 12:53:11 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Rebelbase

Couple of questions

How much fuel are we talking about ?

for how long are you planning on keeping it?

under what conditions do you plan to store it?

If you are talking a significant quantity I would buy a 55 gallon drum, add the Stabil and make sure the bungs are good and tight.

Avoid ethanol if possible and get the 91 octane ethanol free if you can.

Keep the drum as stable in temperature as you can, but short hydrocarbons don’t like to say abround very long before going “sour”. Gasoline is a short shelf life item.


10 posted on 10/07/2016 12:54:54 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: ncfool

Put Sea Foam in it and start it.

It may take running it a few times to get it corrected.


11 posted on 10/07/2016 12:55:03 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Rebelbase

Ethanol gas wont keep over the summer.


12 posted on 10/07/2016 12:55:16 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Rebelbase

Some of the problems of storing gasoline for longer periods of time.

First, ethanol with up to 10% ethanol. Ethanol is soluble in water and what can happen if there is any water around the fuel, including humidity in air, is the you can get a phase separation - a lower octane fuel floating on an ethanol water layer which is corrosive.

A problem with storing both E10 and non-ethanol gasoline, is that the lighter end of the fuel, butane in particular, will vaporize out of the fuel. The octane of butane is about 92, so losing butane lowers the octane of the remaining fuel and makes the fuel less volatile. Being less volatile means the fuel will cause an engine to have a much harder time starting and burning the fuel.


13 posted on 10/07/2016 12:56:48 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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Avoid any ethanol content at all if possible.

Fuel’s enemies are exposure to moisture and air, to light, and to temperature change. Control those things and gasoline should last for many months. Vented gas cans kept in a non-climate controlled garage invite trouble. Newer vehicles have much less tank venting than older models.

AFAIK, all gasoline stabilizers are more-or-less the same.


14 posted on 10/07/2016 12:58:07 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Rebelbase

Mind if I piggyback on to your post with a related question? Should the tank be as full as possible with gas (as treated with stabilizer) when put away for the winter? Or should the tank be as empty as possible (still with stabilizer)? I am thinking of boats and motorcycles in say central Michigan....both are stored in sheds that are not heated.


15 posted on 10/07/2016 12:58:07 PM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believe�.but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: Rebelbase

I have a 2014 boat that has never tasted ethanol and never will! Also used exclusively in my mower! Use boat in the winter up here in NC about once a month. Always have at least 5 Gallons stored.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.AutoLean.puregas&hl=en

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pure-gas/id454559068?mt=8


16 posted on 10/07/2016 1:01:38 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: Dan(9698)

How much Seafoam per gallon of gas?


17 posted on 10/07/2016 1:02:45 PM PDT by Snowybear
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Snow blower has had gas in it two years and not started. What do I do?

Have you tried starting it? If you did, and it didn't work, you may have to clean out the carb/fuel system.

If you haven't tried starting it, I'd suggest trying to drain all the old fuel out, and put fresh in, then try starting it.

I have an old motorhome that sits more than it goes, the generator runs off the same fuel in the main tank. The generator runs maybe once a year for 10-15 minutes. I've not had a problem starting it even though it's been on E-10 for five years now.

I know I need to run it more often, but I really just forget to go do it. Out of sight, out of mind.

18 posted on 10/07/2016 1:03:48 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: Rebelbase

I use an enzyme additive. Can’t remember the name. Stabilizes car fuel for at least three years. Or, use 100LL aviation fuel. It never goes bad in storage.


19 posted on 10/07/2016 1:05:19 PM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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I have used Pri-G for storage fuel, and have used some that was two years old and still ran great in all my machines. The price seems a little high but it only needs about 1/3 ounce for a five gallon container. I have used one bottle for over five years.


20 posted on 10/07/2016 1:08:09 PM PDT by wdnhrse
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