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Amendment 69 will help Colorado Boom Economically. Vote Yes on amendment 69.
Harvard Health Program ^ | 10/6/2016 | jim davis

Posted on 10/06/2016 1:10:19 AM PDT by benfranklinthomasjefferson

Dr. Hsiao has set up a lot of countries medical systems. He has spent his entire life studying health care. You can see the perverse economic incentives. A market system would have.

1- price competition 2- consumer sovereignty 3- free entry and exit of suppliers

We currently have problems with 1- Insurance and adverse selection 2- Providers can induce demand

One thing is clear, though: market competition engenders much higher transaction and administrative costs. Furthermore, genuine competition requires excess supply.

Most people want a free market system. However, we have to be honest. There is real market failure. In healthcare, the prices are too high, the quality is too low, the doctors are overworked, there are a lot of people that can't get services. Success would be meeting the needs of society at a reasonable price and high quality.

We can blame it on government. Sure they are to blame. But, we can also blame it on the corporations bribing the politicians. They are both guilty of not fixing this.

America is about small companies having a fair shot. The playing field has to be level.

Amendment 69 is starting over. It operates outside of the political loop. It's twenty one local citizens. That is a much better chance at making it a fair shake for everyone than the corruption at the federal level. That's why the politicians don't want it.

If there is collusion, should the government break it up? If there is monopoly and people are getting gouged should government regulate it? Do you really think health care prices are fair? Is your doctor readily available? Are the drug prices good?

There is a big difference between crony capitalism and the real deal. We have crony capitalism here seething with corruption. Let the people of Colorado start over outside the political system. It's one of the best chances that could ever happen.

Prices are going up 20% next year.

I believe in liberty. I don't think living without healthcare is a good idea for most of us. I also believe in responsibility to give my fair share. Still, I know I'm getting ripped off on healthcare. I could sit back and bash the government for taking all the handouts and giving out favors, but what good does that do. The people of Colorado have really worked their butts off to make a change.

Finally, amendment 69 is a coop. There are a lot of successful coops. The Green Bay Packers are a coop and so is Sunkist. Coops aren't inherently evil. They do a lot of good when run properly.

Vote Yes on amendment 69.


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1 posted on 10/06/2016 1:10:19 AM PDT by benfranklinthomasjefferson
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

http://www.colorado.edu/Economics/people/faculty/hsiao.html

this the Dr?


2 posted on 10/06/2016 1:16:37 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson; Sheapdog

JUST SAY “NO” IN NOVEMBER – AMENDMENT 69.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3476596/posts

No on Amendment 69: ColoradoCare would be too costly.

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/04/01/no-on-amendment-69-coloradocare-would-be-too-costly/

Amendment 69 would be devastating for Colorado’s economy, employers and their employees... It would limit health care choice, access and quality.

Under Amendment 69, ALL Coloradans will lose their current benefit plan, to be replaced by benefits yet to be determined, to be serviced by an entity yet to be identified, to include providers yet to be named.

http://www.coloradansforcoloradans.com/


3 posted on 10/06/2016 1:40:04 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

A coop isn’t a government bureaucracy.

Another lie.


4 posted on 10/06/2016 2:03:07 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

Socialized health care only works when only citizens get it and only for a short while, until the corruption take hold in any top down system, then it devolves into crap as there is no selective pressure to weed out bad policies like private systems have...


5 posted on 10/06/2016 2:07:42 AM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

Sorry, anyone who is interested in freedom of medical choice SHOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS MONSTROSITY.


6 posted on 10/06/2016 2:11:02 AM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

“Amendment 69 is starting over. It operates outside of the political loop. It’s twenty one local citizens.”

HOA Warning! HOA Warning!


7 posted on 10/06/2016 2:12:19 AM PDT by mazda77 (The solution: Vote Trump)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

In my entire lifetime, I cannot ever remember voting FOR any resolution, amendment, referendum, etc. to a state constitution. Why? Because they are ALL started by the group or people who want to benefit somehow from its implementation. The wording is overly long and complicated and convoluted trying to make the voter seem like they’re doing a good thing, but the implementation is mostly always very targeted and unlike what was on the ballot.

NO, NO.....hell no.


8 posted on 10/06/2016 2:28:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson
Your master summons.


9 posted on 10/06/2016 2:30:18 AM PDT by kitchen (If you are a luthier please ping me.)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

Paul Starr’s 1978 book is worth reading. Healthcare is a bit different. One difference, if the “supply” one is considering is doctors, that can’t be cranked out of a factory overnight. It takes, realistically, a decade to produce a doctor. Cutting corners could drop it to 4 or so at a minimum but not many humans could take it and the product would be quite inferior. Even ten years is grueling.

Even at ten years a good deal of that is 100+ hours per week. And this is not sitting behind a desk, it is scurrying all over a hospital fighting death and disease. Overproducing doctors reduces the quality of services for decades and it is difficult to restore public confidence once it is lost. I do believe doctors are probably the last profession that enjoys public trust. These factors do need consideration when folks start talking about changing healthcare.

Of course, there are many variables and some changes have already occurred. Find a website where they post photos of the graduating doctors at your nearby Med Scool. Those are the faces you will be looking at in 4 or 6 years. Notice anything?


10 posted on 10/06/2016 3:07:15 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

The author clearly has no idea what a free market is. I suspect he is ignorant of other concepts and realities also. Can he explain the differences between the three major economic systems of a modern country? I’ll bet he can’t even name them.


11 posted on 10/06/2016 3:50:07 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

Here, I will do it for you. Check out the local School of Pharmacy Residents for 2015-2016.

http://www.vcuhspharmacyresidency.vcu.edu/index_files/ResidentClassPicture2015-2016A.jpg

There. Notice anything?


12 posted on 10/06/2016 5:02:01 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

More.

http://www.medschool.vcu.edu/media/medschool/galleries/convocation-2016/a1160513_270_aj__sr_5X7.jpg


13 posted on 10/06/2016 5:05:30 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

Let’s look at the Med School affiliated with Dr Hsiao’s University.

http://www.ucdenver.edu/academics/colleges/medicalschool/education/studentaffairs/studentgroups/msc/PublishingImages/485706_4157011917216_1471588156_n.jpg


14 posted on 10/06/2016 5:09:54 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

I could do this all day.


15 posted on 10/06/2016 5:10:13 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

Another ‘expert’ brought in to show us deplorables that we don’t know sh!t.

No on 69 and any other spending initiative. It’s single payer through the back door.


16 posted on 10/06/2016 5:50:39 AM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust: It corrodes 24 hours a day until eradicated.)
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Tax on businesses and corporations......up 6.5 percent
Payroll tax on an individual.....................up 3.5 percent
It would cripple CO. economy like Obamacare


17 posted on 10/06/2016 6:06:50 AM PDT by wardamneagle (C)
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To: wastoute

I’m not sure what I am looking for. Other than a group of mostly attractive women in the first picture, I’m not seeing a theme.

I see lots of men in the other pictures. I see several different races and ethnicities.

I do see they are all young but that shouldn’t be a surprise.

What is it?


18 posted on 10/06/2016 6:10:34 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: benfranklinthomasjefferson

UnitedHealth Just Got Sued for Overcharging on Prescription Drugs

Kristen Bahler @kristenbahler October 6, 2016

According to a lawsuit from three customers.

If you’ve been waiting for some good news from the prescription drug world, you’ll have to look elsewhere.

UnitedHealth Group, the largest health insurer in the country, has been sued by customers who claim the company secretly overcharged them for prescription drugs, Reuters reports.

In a lawsuit filed Tuesday in Minnesota, three UnitedHealth customers claim they made co-payments for drugs that were more expensive than the actual cost of the drugs — and UnitedHealth pocketed the difference. The lawsuit uses the contraceptive Sprintec as an example, for which one member allegedly paid $50, while UnitedHealth only paid the pharmacy $11.65 — keeping the extra $38.85. While this was billed as a “co-payment,” the transaction is actually a “hidden additional premium,” the lawsuit claims.

http://time.com/money/4520981/unitedhealth-lawsuit-prescription-drugs/


19 posted on 10/06/2016 6:45:23 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: wardamneagle

I’m trying to get the word out as most people don’t bother too much with the amendments until they vote.

Most of the people I’ve talked to have already decided to vote NO. But I live in a small county and so we probably won’t influence things much.


20 posted on 10/06/2016 8:46:23 AM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust: It corrodes 24 hours a day until eradicated.)
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