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Christopher Columbus, Vs. “the noble red man.”
Canada Free Press ^ | 10/03/16 | Jeffrey A. Friedberg

Posted on 10/04/2016 7:29:47 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony

False matrix of a false reality that the Rulers use to break down, beat down, and make “guilty” my (our) beloved American traditions and history, which they seek to warp, or destroy utterly

“…Numerous communities have decided to commemorate the lives of indigenous Americans lost to genocide and colonial oppression instead of Christopher Columbus’s journey across the Atlantic.” Breitbart.com

Know what? I’m sick of hearing this garbage about Christopher Columbus, Vs. “the noble red man.”

Charges of Columbus’ anti-Native-American/Indigenous-People/First-Americans, Racism (whatever the hell THAT means anymore), genocide, and all that other happy horse manure seem to have really worn out both me and general human reason on the topic.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: cannibals; christophercolumbus; columbusday; constantwars; headhunters; indiansnatives; nobleredman
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To: Sean_Anthony

If Columbus had not discovered the New World in 1492, Pedro Álvares Cabral would have on April 22, 1500.

Discovery was inevitable.


21 posted on 10/04/2016 8:18:44 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (HANDGUNS; You don’t need it until you need it. And when you need it you NEED IT!”)
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To: wardaddy

Couldn’t have happened that way.

The Vikings scouted their conquests with traders, who would later become pillagers. When the scouts get killed and looted the Viking modus operandi is circumvented.


22 posted on 10/04/2016 8:19:28 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck?Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Sivad

The European record of slavery is not “relatively recent.”
Slavery has never died out in the Middle East, India, or Africa.

Make up something else.


23 posted on 10/04/2016 8:21:38 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck?Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: dfwgator

24 posted on 10/04/2016 8:27:34 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: SpinnerWebb

If you are able to do something means you can do that something successfully.


25 posted on 10/04/2016 8:31:41 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yep!

If you’ve ever visited Hawaii, you’ll hear to “native” groans loud and clear about “colonization”.

Had the English/Americans not subjugated them, the Russians, Japanese, or Chinese inevitably would.


26 posted on 10/04/2016 8:33:08 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Sean_Anthony

bttt


27 posted on 10/04/2016 8:49:03 AM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (End the political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Native Americans have a sordid past too and sometimes engaged in genocidal warfare against competing tribes. For example the Lakota obtained horses and moved from their traditional homelands in Minnesota to the Dakotas completely wiping out the Arikara. Early French explorers in the region named the tribe Sioux meaning cut throats.


28 posted on 10/04/2016 9:05:01 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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To: dfwgator

“So then why do we celebrate Columbus Day in the first place?”

Cuz’ Italians want a day of our own. The blacks got theirs, the Irish got theirs, so we want ours.

You gotta problem wid’ dat?


29 posted on 10/04/2016 9:23:44 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970

What about us Polack’s.......We want Pulaski Day.


30 posted on 10/04/2016 9:25:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sivad

I wish we still had slavery. Full employment for everyone! : )
I would be a slave master myself.....


31 posted on 10/04/2016 9:27:22 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

If Columbus had not discovered the New World in 1492, Pedro Álvares Cabral would have on April 22, 1500.

Discovery was inevitable.


And so was the destruction of the Indian population and culture. I cannot imagine a different outcome—a metal-using culture capable of trans-Atlantic voyages encountering stone-age cultures. In Mexico/Peru the disparity was less because of the Indian civilizations, (yet in spite of that advantage or perhaps because of it, they were conquered in short order) but in North America the uncivilized Indian really didn’t have a chance. Forget disease, economics doomed them. How many acres would it take to feed a European farming family vs Indian hunter-gatherers? The only places the Indians could hang on to were environments to hostile to be desirable to the European settlers.


32 posted on 10/04/2016 9:43:47 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: dfwgator

I’d be cool with Jan Sobieski Day. Need another one like him.


33 posted on 10/04/2016 10:05:35 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: minnesota_bound

I think with socialism on the horizon we
are all at risk of being the nail rather
than the hammer.


34 posted on 10/04/2016 10:08:44 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf.)
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To: MrEdd

Who pissed in your Cherios?

Do you know what the word ‘relatively’ means?
Did you not notice that I expressed that forms
of slavery continue?


35 posted on 10/04/2016 10:18:06 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf.)
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To: dfwgator

For what it’s worth, there IS a Pulaski highway in Baltimore...


36 posted on 10/04/2016 10:23:52 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: al_c

By “here,” I meant the New World.


37 posted on 10/04/2016 10:36:13 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: kallisti

And they didn’t look like Disney’s Pocahantas.


38 posted on 10/04/2016 10:37:43 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Sivad

Relative to ongoing and still happening right now, the European record on slavery is ancient history.

When someone corrects your assertion don’t throw a temper tantrum.

You won’t win arguments that way.


39 posted on 10/04/2016 10:40:39 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck?Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: IronJack
By “here,” I meant the New World.

Of course.

40 posted on 10/04/2016 10:42:29 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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