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We All Think Hillary Won Debate, But I Wouldn't Be Surprised If Trump's Poll Numbers Go Up
Real Clear Politics ^ | September 27, 2016 | Tim Haines

Posted on 09/27/2016 5:16:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

'Morning Joe' co-host Mika Brzezinski reacts to the first presidential debate Monday night at Hofstra University.

"I think, probably, we all think Hillary won," Brzezinski said in the 6 a.m. hour Tuesday. "But my blood pressure kept going up throughout the whole thing — I could not stop watching until the very end because there was something that was telling me he’s going to do quite well out of this, and I can’t quite put my finger on it. He was not as bad as you would expect him to be."

"I think he said things that touch on not just what primary voters think, but what people are thinking on a number of levels. I just wouldn't be surprised if he came out doing better in the polls after this," she said. "And she was not as great as she could have been."

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 2016debates; 2016polls; brzezinski; debates; hillary; mikabrzezinski; trump; trumpbump
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Hillary, if she did everything perfect, was never going to be able to get more than 42/43% of the vote MAX at least against Trump. Against a standard pol, perhap that might be different, but the minute Trump was the Republican nominee, she was at that instant stuck with q functional max of 42/43% of the vote... Or in simpler terms, was never going to be able than get the folks who vote D no matter what.

This has been true from the MOMENT Trump was the republican nominee. But you lefties and dems didn’t want to hear it. All you wanted to believe was that Clinton’s $$ and ground game and experience and whatever was so good Trump never had a chance. In reality all of those things were just spotted points for Hillary.. They let her get to her max faster (42/43%) but they did nothing to increase the functional max she is capable of.

Trump not having those things meant it has taken him longer to consolidate his support and grow it, but his functional max is far higher than Hillary’s was ever going to be. Hillary spent August laying low thinking she could just wait out the clock... Doing Nothing to even try to increase her functional max... And what happened? Trump did stumble a bit in early August and she naively thought waiting it out would work... By mid August trumps stumble was done and he was back recovering and building his momentum.

So by early Sept it was clear as Crysral Trump was growing his support and growing his momentum, while she was stuck at low 40/ because she did nothing to try to increase her max... So she comes out of hiding and starts campaigning,but she’s Hillary. She’s an abysmal campaigner and the more she’s seen the less she is liked... Then she shows her true arrogant nasty self and calls Trumps supporters deplorables... Which only further motivates Trumps supporters, alienated some of the fringes of her supporters and increases Trumps momentum further and then we have the collapse followed by the lies about it... And She goes underground.. Once more doing nothing to attempt to increase her functional maximum while Tumps momentum and standings keep growing so so that by mid September all those spotted points have been neutralized. Trump has caught you and he clearly has the momentum.

So we have a debate, and we plan and plan and plan for it and we know if we do well in this debate we will put this loud mouth away... And momentum Will be outs and so will the election... So we have the debate and Hillary does well, and on classical scoring she comes out the winner...the pundits declare me the winner Hillary is all smiles she’s vanquished the unworthy for and can look forward to her coronation...

But wait... What’s this? The debate didn’t help? Trump still has the momentum and its growing! How can this be? She did everything right, she won... But alas a debate “win” does not change her functional max, she gets no more votes for her performance because few if any were watching to see here, those that had not committed had already long ago written her off. She was at her functional max nothing she could do or say would increase her vote total all she could do that would help her would be to depress Trumps total... But winning a debate on points doesn’t do that... Because no one was watching with the intend to vote for Hillary if she won on points... No one. The undecideds were watching to see if they felt trump was this overly dangerous racist hateful person the left and media have tried for the last year to spin him as or was he reasonable.

Hillary winning on points doesn’t get her one more boy and Trump looking reasonable not only keeps his momentum but increases it as he continues to build up to his functional max which was never hindered like Hillary’s has been all along.

All those big benefits, money, experience, ground game.. They got her to her functional max faster (spotted points) but did NOTHING to increase he functional max one vor higher. So now she has to sit back and rail like hitter in his bunker about how could this be happening as trump runs away with the election.

Basically Hillary And the left celebrated because 10 minutes into the 48 minute game they had 42 points. It took Trump a lot more effort and energy and hard work but by 30th minute of that 48 Minute game. Trump is at 42.. And Hillary is still at 42... There are only 18 minutes left and Trump is sinking basket after basket while Hillary is completely unable to get anything to drop. She’s scored all the points she can and nothing she ca do will get her one more point or keep Trump from running up the score.


61 posted on 09/27/2016 9:46:48 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I think, probably, we all think Hillary won,”


Translation...we all at the Moonbat Lunatic Asylum think Hillary won.


62 posted on 09/27/2016 10:08:23 PM PDT by Valk Rider
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To: TakebackGOP

***** She was more polished, but she didn’t win. *****

More polished? Like in a career politician polished?


63 posted on 09/27/2016 10:11:55 PM PDT by Valk Rider
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“He means all the people in the LSM, who are in the tank for Hillary anyway.”
==
Yeah, I know. But “Worms?” is my goto response for the “royal we”.


64 posted on 09/27/2016 11:40:04 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: visualops

The signs are mainly on a main north/south route at every corner/intersection and along the road side.

It’s like they popped up like weeds in the last 2 weeks.


65 posted on 09/28/2016 3:17:02 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Simon Foxx

And Trump’s theme in his rally speech last night emphasized just that — I have something new and positive to offer, she has nothing but the same old tired approach that hasn’t worked for the last many years.

That’s going to be his theme from now on. And the obvious tag teaming of him by Hillary and Lester Holt is going to backfire against them so big.


66 posted on 09/28/2016 3:23:08 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Donald Trump: putting American steel in the spine of our country.)
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To: LouieFisk

MSNBC viewers respond to the royal WE. If you say WE, they follow. They’re not the brightest bulbs as WE all know.


67 posted on 09/28/2016 3:27:22 AM PDT by uncitizen (JFK: The first victim of the New World Order)
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To: CapnJack

So they are not representative of actual support.


68 posted on 09/28/2016 4:24:16 AM PDT by visualops (It's the majority of the American people and Trump against the enemies of the republic - Windflier)
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To: Valk Rider

Yes


69 posted on 09/28/2016 5:39:05 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An undecided in NC told his focus group what I think was the key point. “She doesn’t have any new ideas, it is all just the same old play book”.

I think most US voters see that.


70 posted on 09/28/2016 6:08:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: HamiltonJay

Good analysis. The most important thing for Trump is he needs to hold Hillary to under 90% of the black vote in Philly, Cleveland, Charlotte, Richmond. If he does that, he wins the election easily. I am predicting that this will go for Trump like 2004 went for Bush, with the exception that Trump also wins PA.


71 posted on 09/28/2016 6:18:02 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Lester Holt — Clinton House Boy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like the lies he is telling himself still aren’t strong enough.

2016 - Hoping to see the democrats hit reality like a bug on a windshield.


72 posted on 09/28/2016 6:39:37 AM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What really creeped me out in the debate was that fake smile Hillary kept on her face the entire time. It was like there was an alien entity running her body attempting to look friendly. It was on her face when she should have been sad, angry, defensive, etc.


73 posted on 09/28/2016 10:57:30 AM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016)
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To: Pox
However. you have to balance that truism with the fact the Mr. Trump is attempting to sway a significant portion of voters who benefited from that legislation, and pointing fingers at a specific subset of voters is not a good idea at this juncture.

Like most Ponzi schemes, Only the ones running it and the ones that got in early benefited.

Ten's of Millons of American Citizens were hurt by the crash.

And most have no idea the whole thing started out as a vote buying scheme for the Dems.

74 posted on 09/29/2016 8:03:06 PM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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