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Third Circuit Rules Permanent Gun Ban from an Involuntary Commitment is Unconstitutional
Gun Watch ^ | 17 September, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/25/2016 4:39:16 AM PDT by marktwain

In May of 2012,  Clifford Charles Tyler filed a suit to regain his Second Amendment rights, which had been improperly withheld from him when he attempted to buy a firearm. When he attempted to purchase a firearm, he had been denied because he had been involuntarily committed 28 years before. The District Court dismissed the lawsuit on January 29, 2013. Tyler appealed to the Sixth Circuit.  A three judge panel of the Sixth Circuit ruled the provision unconstitutional in December of 2014.

The Obama administration found the case important enough that they asked for, and got, an en banc review.

The entire Sixth Circuit has reheard the case.  On Friday, 15 September, 2016, 10 of the Circuit's 15 judges concurred and upheld the initial ruling.  . From courthousenews.com:

CINCINNATI (CN) — A person involuntarily committed to a mental-health facility is not permanently barred from owning a gun, a divided en banc Sixth Circuit ruled Thursday.
The Cincinnati-based appeals court overturned a lower court decision and ruled that "prior involuntary commitment is not coextensive with current mental illness," but that "intermediate scrutiny" should be applied on a case-by-case basis.
The en banc decision comes nearly a year after oral arguments in Tyler v. Hillsdale County Sheriff's Department, et al., with 10 of the Sixth Circuit judges concurring with the lead opinion written by Judge Julia Smith Gibbons.
 From the decision(pdf):
The district court dismissed Tyler’s suit for failure to state a claim, reasoning that Heller’s statement regarding “presumptively lawful” prohibitions on the mentally ill foreclosed such claims. The court also observed that § 922(g)(4) would survive intermediate scrutiny. Unlike the district court, we do not understand Heller’s pronouncement about presumptively lawful prohibitions to insulate § 922(g)(4) from constitutional scrutiny nor do we believe that on the record as it currently stands the government has carried its burden to show that § 922(g)(4)’s permanent ban is substantially related to the government’s important interests in reducing crime and preventing suicide. Because Tyler’s complaint states a valid claim under the Second Amendment, we reverse and remand.
This is an important case that shows that Second Amendment rights are to be treated seriously, and a lifetime ban of a fundamental right is an action that is not to be implemented in a frivolous fashion. 

The decision puts a strategy of incremental firearms confiscation at risk.  The thrust of the strategy has been to make more and more groups into prohibited possessors, and more and more types of firearms into contraband.  Eventually the number of "legal" possessors and "legal" firearms becomes so small that it is rendered politically toothless.

But cases like this threaten the plan.  If labeling someone as mentally ill with an involuntary commitment can no longer be relied on to permanently make them a prohibited possessor, increasing the number of people who are prohibited possessors becomes that much harder.

There is a a serious split in the Circuits about this issue.  I expect the Obama administration to appeal to the Supreme Court.

The case is likely to reach the Court after a replacement for Justice Scallia is chosen.


  ©2016 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; involuntary; secondamendment; sixthcircuit
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To: marktwain

The 2nd Amendment guarantees a FUNDAMENTAL right, yet strict scrutiny is almost NEVER applied in such cases as it would almost invariably secure an American citizen the right to keep and bear arms.

Strict scrutiny applies to EVERY other constitutionally guaranteed right, but NOT to the 2nd Amendment.

This would be unf***in’ believable if it weren’t so friggin’ believable.


21 posted on 09/25/2016 9:36:44 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: redfreedom

That is exactly what I meant.


22 posted on 09/25/2016 10:11:22 AM PDT by exnavy ( psalm 27: 4 ...dwell in the house of the Lord, all the days of my life...)
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To: Reno89519

Nothing trumps the constitution, no pun intended. The ruling elitists of CA have stolen that constitutional right. That ruling class, state or federal should be seen as thieves.


23 posted on 09/25/2016 10:15:49 AM PDT by exnavy ( psalm 27: 4 ...dwell in the house of the Lord, all the days of my life...)
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To: redfreedom; exnavy
A number Drug War Whores here side with the ATF against the Second Amendment =>

Appeals court upholds ban on gun sales to medical marijuana card holders

24 posted on 09/25/2016 10:50:33 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Ex-Pat in Mex

I understand and agree with everything you said but when I look back at it, I can’t help but wonder if you wish - if only I’d kept it in my pants.


25 posted on 09/25/2016 11:07:28 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Conservatives own 200,000,000 guns and a trillion rounds of ammo. If we were violent you'd know it.)
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To: marktwain

Good news. Thanks for posting this.


26 posted on 09/25/2016 2:36:30 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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