Audio: Trump Top Adviser (Roger Stone) Obama Birth Certificate Not Real (Arpaio agrees:comments)

Boston Herald Radio ^ | September 16, 2016 | Roger Stone/John Sapochetti/Alex Reimer

[Seizethecarp]

REIMER: Obama did release his birth certificate, though, so what more does Donald Trump need to see, you think?

STONE: Well there are many people who are far more knowledgeable than I am about the internet and about the computerized graphics who have a belief that the document that was produced is not real. I don’t know. I’m not an expert on this. I also don’t really care in the sense that Obama’s presidency is essentially over. We’re not running against Barack Obama, at least not directly. Trump is running against four more years of Obama perhaps but Hillary Clinton is [his] opponent and this is a media-fostered distraction.

[LucyT]

Ping to # 79 , and # 80 .

Thanks GregNH and Seizethecarp.

[Baynative]

Some day I think we will learn that the nation was fooled by this illegitimate imposter.

[Baynative]

...and I think that news will come with the fact that the media knew the truth all along.

[rxsid]

"IF he can be shown to be in office illegally.

However, in the heat of a campaign in which Trump has pulled even is not the time to address it."

This issue won't make or break Trump's election as Trump has taken it off the table for the debates. The big media might try to bring it up again, but most voters still on the fence at this time will see it as desperation on the part of the media and the (D)'s, especially in light of the fact that it was the (D)'s who initiated the questions (not to mention, the first eligibility lawsuit). This issue, as a political weapon, is now ineffective for the D's.

As fo those interested in seeing the truth known, we can always walk and chew gum.

[rxsid]

"Once Trump is in office with his own DOJ, he can do something, and I am certain he will."

I would actually be surprised if he didn't.

[rxsid]

"This was posted on Zippo's campaign website in '08, no longer there.

..."

There are cached versions still available:

When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Original link no longer works: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

Check Wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20091231104754/http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

Factcheck.org goes on to say this about Obama Sr., Jr. and the British Nationality Act of 1948: In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii)* and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

Original link no longer works: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

Check Wayback machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20091224211704/http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

[GregNH]

This issue, as a political weapon, is now ineffective for the D's

Anybody who thinks "Birther" is a racist term, the only reason the MSM would use it, would never vote for Trump anyway, so you are correct, non-issue.

[GregNH]

(by virtue of being born in Hawaii)*

Ha! My wife wants to see an asterisk in place of his name in the list of POTUS's...lol

[rxsid]

"This issue, as a political weapon, is now ineffective for the D's

Anybody who thinks "Birther" is a racist term, the only reason the MSM would use it, would never vote for Trump anyway, so you are correct, non-issue.

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And if they try to link it to racism during the debates, Trump should fire back with some historical facts the prove Barry wasn't the 1st to be questioned (nor the 2nd or 3rd):

Chester Arthur, the 21st president had his birthplace and eligibility questioned (back in the day...and still today). The same guy who had many of his personal papers burned (a pdf file) a day before he died (more than a curiosity).

Did anyone cry racism when they wanted to see McCain's original B.C.?

Did anyone cry racism when they wanted to see Eisenhower's?

[GregNH]

Chester Arthur, the 21st president had his birthplace and eligibility questioned (back in the day...and still today). The same guy who had many of his personal papers burned (a pdf file) a day before he died (more than a curiosity)

And as it turns out Arthur had his papers burned only because his Dad was not a citizen when Chester was born...making the case that Chester knew he was not an NBC as commonly known at that time.

[Fred Nerks]

Everything I have ever read on the subject on FR seems to be based on ‘Dreams From My Father’

Black Kenyan marries lily white teenager from Kansas in Hawaii, they have a child named after the father.

Yet, if you were asked to show proof who his parents were, aside from a fake BC, there’s nothing there...

Try it.

The question isn’t where he was born. It’s who he is.

[Seizethecarp]

“...and I think that news will come with the fact that the media knew the truth all along.”

WaPo editor David Maraniss’s Obama biography “The Story” bombed because he exploded so many lies Barry has been telling. The public “couldn’t handle the truth”...what little Maraniss served up.

One biographer (Sally something?) hid for years the FOIA info in Barry’s dad’s INS file about Barry’s mom considering turning Baby Barry over to the Salvation Army.

[Beautiful_Gracious_Skies]

And who is he?

What do we know for sure?

1. He is a tall thin man of mixed race who rose to power faster than any other politician ever has in our nation’s history.

2. He is the ‘sponsored son’ of someone of great power and financial means. He was given a million dollar plus education at Punahou, Occidental, Columbia, & Harvard.

3. He has deliberately hidden or obscured all documentation related to his actual identity. Google and our government has assisted with the scrub. FOIA requests were delayed for extended times and the results are suspect.

4. His published family photo album is a fabrication of crude photoshops.

5. He had books written to create a false history that the MSM and readers never questioned.

[Fred Nerks]

“...He had books written to create a false history that the MSM and readers never questioned.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3470148/posts?page=48#48

I’ve been asking the same questions for years now, but no one wants to enter into the discussion. Every thread seems to revert to the myth of ‘Dreams’

[GregNH]

The Freepers that I have pinged in this comment and myself are only but a few that have spent an enormous amount of time, money, and actually traveling to different parts of the world doing research on the subject of who is he? We still don't know....

I made that comment here during my attempt to edify Twit1. I am not sure we will ever know...

[Rustybucket]

Trump NEVER said that Obama was an American Citizen, he said that he was born in America. Its more about what he did not say......
He is NOT an American Citizen
His birth father was not a US Citizen, rather British, as a result of Kenyan Birth
His Mother was not living in the US 5 years before his birth
He was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and his citizenship moved to Indonesia, and at 18 he never reapplied for US citizenship.
He attended college as a Foreign Student, where he was the Editor of the Harvard Review, yet never published anything, and nobody remembers him from the graduating class.
He could not Pass the Bar, so worked in Michelles law firm and later became a community organizer.
When he wrote books they listed him as a Kenyan Citizen
The people from his village in Kenya erected a statue for him when he won the presidency
His grandmother was present at his birth in Mombasa
They have the name of the doctor who delivered him
They know the hospital in Mombasa
The daughter of the doctor is still alive and remembers him.
His Mombasa Birth certificate in on file in the US courts system.
Everything is on hold for now as it is a distraction from Trump winning the presidency. Once that is accomplished IMO, Arpaio, and his detectives will be allowed to show their findings without death threats

[Fred Nerks]

Some day I think we will learn that the nation was fooled by this illegitimate imposter.

Heather Smathers obtained the above document FOI partially redacted.

Sally Jacobs obtained the above document and published in her book TRUNCATED. It's the same document. The name assumed to be the name of the mother is truncated. The Salvation Army reference dates from APRIL 1961.

Without the name of the mother and the name of the child being discussed for adoption, FIVE MONTHS BEFORE zero was born and THREE MONTHS after the child Mary babysat for Anna Obama, any identification of the mother and child is impossible. And that ain't no accident.

[Fred Nerks]

http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3471190/posts?page=97#97

FOI would appear to be a joke.

[GregNH]

So hard to wrap my brain around this these days. I have forgotten so much. But I just had a thought that maybe the adoption was talked about before the baby was born? I think that took place more often back then as abortion was not an option. Could the Dunhams have just ended up with an adopted black kid no one wanted?

[Fred Nerks]

...Could the Dunhams have just ended up with an adopted black kid no one wanted?

Whose parents were a black radical and a Lebanese actress related to the baby-sitters family?

Possibly.