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Car Jacking - Where are you packing your heat?
American Shooting Journal ^ | 8/24/2016 | J Hines

Posted on 08/24/2016 9:19:07 AM PDT by w1n1

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To: Scythian_Reborn

Now that’s cool right there I don’t care who you are.


61 posted on 08/25/2016 8:58:50 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: MattinNJ
I recommend Taurus Judge. 5 shot revolver which fires 45s and shotgun shells.

My fav as well. Have a 2" snubbie loaded with shot (don't want to take out a bystander). At the least, the bad guy is going to be rolling around on the ground yelling "OW,OW,OW" - especially if hit in the face.

Some argue against shot, but I'm figuring a carjacking will be at belly button range and the shot will act as a frangible slug + the safety factor.

CCW is a Ruger LCP .380 with Zombie (soft/hollow point) loads.

62 posted on 08/25/2016 10:59:25 AM PDT by Oatka (Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.)
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To: w1n1
The first class I ever took at the SIG ACADEMY was "Bullets On Vehicles" and it was a full day of learning how to safely access and engage defensively targets from inside a vehicle in all directions. We got to live fire rounds out of actual automobiles, including through the front and rear windshield.

As a matter of demonstration we were also able to offensively engage multiple standard IDPA style targets from a car on the move as if engaged in a "Drive By" scenario. We learned something critical from that: The target of a drive by is almost always safer than the folks around him! We were also able to shoot into a variety of vehicles to see how well standard defensive rounds penetrated various parts of the vehicle. The most interesting was the tires. Unlike Hollywood, they don't explode, no matter the caliber. We shot a .338 Lapua Magnum through a tire and while it went through the rubber and the RIM 100% it still took time for the air to quietly empty from the tire. Also learned how to "bounce" rounds under the vehicle. The best part was learning to access and engage from a hip holster. Even if properly using the seat belt system.

Having said that, I usually carry my Sig MK25 or P227 (same holster) in a CROSSBREED Super Tuck Deluxe IWB. Same for my Sig RCS 1911. If the situation is low stress (meaning that I'm planning on staying pretty close to home for dinner or something), I may just put a Ruger LC9s into my right front pocket with the spare mag in the opposite pocket. My Sigs all sport higher capacity magazines from Mec-Gar who also happens to be the actual manufacturer of Sig and other brands magazines. So 18+1 in my carry piece and perhaps another 18 or even a 20rd mag as spare. If you need it you might need it a lot. Especially on the road in a rural area. The P227 is a 10rd 45 with spares in 14 rd capacities. But I usually keep that at home as my dedicated Home Defense weapon with a Streamlight 500 lumen gun-light with strobe capability attached.

I practice all of this stuff constantly. Learning it does no good without practice.

63 posted on 08/25/2016 11:04:51 AM PDT by ExSoldier ("Terrorists: They hate you yesterday, today, and tomorrow. End it, no more tomorrows for them!)
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To: Pollster1
I always have a legal tool, a pocketknife, in a useful position.

Besides a Taurus Judge and a Ruger .380 LCP mentioned earlier, I also carry THIS one-hand flip open in the doors side pocket, in case, God forbid, of a crash. It would also double as protection if I ran out of ammo and was still alive.

64 posted on 08/25/2016 11:18:20 AM PDT by Oatka (Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.)
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To: Oatka
I also carry THIS one-hand flip open in the doors side pocket, in case, God forbid, of a crash.

I carry the same tool in my car. It's a bit heavy for every day carry, but it's perfect for the car. Again, it's a pocket knife, so it is not a weapon in my insanely anti-American state.

65 posted on 08/25/2016 4:20:11 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: mbynack; MNnice

For vehicle carry, I have found a single-strap shoulder holster, like that shown here in post 15
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3462495/posts?page=15#15
to be both secure and easy to reach from the driver’s seat. Depending behind the back of the passenger seat, it can be covered by pulling an interior-matching T-shirt over the seatback ‘to protect it from dirt & fading.’ Worried about the strap or holster printing thru the thin fabric? You can hang a light jacket over it instead. You want to be prepared for the occasional weather change anyway, right? My friends in FL were shivering one spring when it dropped into the 40s, LOL.

Notice that the one pictured can be easily detached from the strap for portability or temporary storage elsewhere, while leaving the strap & camouflaging attire in place.

It’s one more step while entering/exiting the vehicle, moving your weapon between the truck holster & the one you’re wearing, but it’s an option. I’ve become inured to driving with a belt-mounted multitool at the 6-7 o’clock position, & years ago wore a small Sat-nite special at small-of-back even behind the wheel.


66 posted on 08/26/2016 3:18:20 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Titan Magroyne

Thanks. That looks like an option.

40 degrees here in Florida is winter weather. This is no exaggeration - I’ve seen people in Parkas and shorts when the temperatures drop into the 60s around here.


67 posted on 08/26/2016 5:49:15 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: mbynack
I haven’t found the perfect place to keep my pistol in my truck. Normally I carry at 4 o’clock IWB on my right side, but I have to unbuckle the seatbelt to draw.

Actually there are two reliable ways to do this (carry and draw strong-side hip while belted into your vehicle)and we were taught these methods at my Sig Academy Course.

#1 You can first off, drape your cover garment over the top of the seat belt leaving the gun unencumbered to draw. Next, slowly lean forward against the chest belt which will create some space to reach back and lift the gun clear of the holster. The problem here is if you move too fast, the sensor may pick it up as an accident in progress and lock up the mechanism, preventing any further forward movement. Just as it's designed to do!

#2 This is the better solution, but it will feel more awkward. Once again, leave the cover garment draped over the outside of the seatbelt. Now, slide your butt forward on the seat. This will have the effect of lowering your drivers position behind the wheel and it will bring your shoulders lower in the seat. It will also open a gap at your waist and hip, leaving you room to draw. Most folks do this all the time, subconsciously when they go to see a movie and they want to get comfortable to eat popcorn and so they slouch in the theater chair. The person sitting behind you silently thanks you for clearing their field of view as you do when the person in front of YOU does the same!

68 posted on 08/26/2016 9:29:16 AM PDT by ExSoldier ("Terrorists: They hate you yesterday, today, and tomorrow. End it, no more tomorrows for them!)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Ahh, yep!


69 posted on 08/26/2016 2:15:50 PM PDT by Slip18
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