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NBC Online poll puts lie to media poll narratives: Trump 54% and Stein 20% leads Clinton
Vanity | August 11, 2016 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 08/11/2016 10:07:53 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

Jim Rutenberg of the New York Times did Donald Trump and his supporters a great favor when he admitted the media was not being objective in its reporting on Trump. Last Sunday, without any self-consciousness, Rutenberg looked in our eyes and said, “Yes we lie for Clinton. What you are going to do about it?”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/business/balance-fairness-and-a-proudly-provocative-presidential-candidate.html

His snarky “up yours” meshes perfectly with the polling fraud exposed in the DNC leaked Emails. They proved both CBS and NBC collaborate with the DNC to create false poll results favorable to Hillary Clinton.

Now comes an NBC online poll that is frankly astounding not only in its results but in the very fact that it is being run from yesterday and still open as of this writing.

http://nbcpoll.com/nbc-poll-vote-future-president-2/

The current results of this poll are as follows: of 81,186 votes cast Trump has 43,545 giving him 54% Jill Stein 16226 for 20% Hillary Clinton 13,037 for 16% and Gary Johnson 8378 for 10% of the vote.

We Trump supporters now have definitive forensic proof that the polls we are being fed by the large media outlets are universally faked.

A June 2015 New York Times article stated that just 8% of the people contacted by pollsters answer their questions. This leaves a huge 92% playground for the polling fraud we see has been established.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/opinion/sunday/whats-the-matter-with-polling.html

The results of NBC’s poll destroy false media/Democrat narratives about their polls.

They argue: “Saying Trump does better in online polls is just a way to avoid the truth that he is losing.” Clearly this argument is no longer valid since Trump doesn’t just “do better” in this on line poll, conducted by a major news organization, he laps the field.

They argue: There are more anti-Trump than pro-Trump votes out there and their only worry is the division of their strength among Hillary supporters Stein’s Green Party supporters Johnson’s Libertarian supporters.

This argument has also been proved false as Trump beats the aggregate numbers of all three of his competitors in landslide fashion.

They argue: “The strength of Gary Johnson is fueled by the deep well of NeverTrump sentiment among Republicans.” This too is a hollow argument because Johnson’s very poor showing proves he is the non-factor he always was.

They argue: “The CNN poll showing 68% of voters don’t trust Hilary Clinton is an anomaly; not actually representative of voter sentiment”

Since 83% of voters in this NBC (Not Johnny’s Fruit Stand) poll voted against Hillary Clinton maybe CNN’s failing was not picking up enough of the voter distrust of Clinton.

Clearly, a strong case can be made that rather than Stein taking votes from Clinton it is Clinton who takes votes from Stein while Johnson takes votes from nobody.


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To: jmaroneps37

that could well presage the actual outcome of the legitimate vote and still not be related to the announced vote count.


21 posted on 08/11/2016 10:46:25 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: jmaroneps37
His snarky “up yours” meshes perfectly with the polling fraud exposed in the DNC leaked Emails. They proved both CBS and NBC collaborate with the DNC to create false poll results

Is there a site for this? I'm creating a compilation of journalistic lies from wikileaks, from Jake Tapper and Chuck Todd taking DNC orders, to CNN discussing talking points with DNC.

22 posted on 08/11/2016 10:46:29 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: RipSawyer

And the fraud did not stop after 2012.


23 posted on 08/11/2016 10:48:26 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: jmaroneps37

If only polls were toilet paper, then a person would have a lifetime supply of fecal wiping material.


24 posted on 08/11/2016 10:49:58 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey
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To: jmaroneps37

On line polls are not reliable.


25 posted on 08/11/2016 10:51:32 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Online polls are notoriously inaccurate.

I agree but a 38% difference 16% to 54%?

Online at a msm website (NBC..not a right wing web site) that should if anything favor a hillary demographic

26 posted on 08/11/2016 10:58:55 AM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: jmaroneps37
We Trump supporters now have definitive forensic proof that the polls we are being fed by the large media outlets are universally faked.

This is an on-line click bait poll. It has no scientific value whatsoever, nor is it "forensic proof" of anything. The fact that Jill Stein is leading Hillary should have been a bright flashing light to you that this poll is worthless. There is no chance at all, in the real world anyway, that the Green Party candidate is ahead of the Democrat Party candidate in the polls.

27 posted on 08/11/2016 11:16:30 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: jmaroneps37

Polls have been off by as much as 20% this year and we are supposed to believe they are accurate to one or two percent.

Pray America wakes


28 posted on 08/11/2016 11:23:35 AM PDT by bray (Clinton/Paine in the neck)
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To: jmaroneps37

I don’t think “NBCPOLL.COM” is really part of NBC. Be careful of that site. Judging by the grammar and all-around site design, it’s amateur at best.

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29 posted on 08/11/2016 11:28:58 AM PDT by adaven
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To: Longbow1969

“This is an on-line click bait poll. It has no scientific value whatsoever, nor is it “forensic proof” of anything. The fact that Jill Stein is leading Hillary should have been a bright flashing light to you that this poll is worthless. There is no chance at all, in the real world anyway, that the Green Party candidate is ahead of the Democrat Party candidate in the polls.” Really thanks so much for setting me straight I thought 66k respondents where they blocked your IP address after one vote was worth sometime; but you make a real fine point there, a real fine point ha ha ha.


30 posted on 08/11/2016 11:41:43 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

FWIW: http://nbcpoll.com.ipaddress.com/Nbcpoll.com

Reverse IP | Websites on the same Webhosting
We found 2 hostnames for IP Address 198.71.233.17
1 gunkelorchards.com
2 nbcpoll.com

Located in Scottsdale, AZ. Hosted by GoDaddy.

It doesn’t seem like anyone should think this site has anything to do with NBC news.


31 posted on 08/11/2016 11:42:11 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: jmaroneps37

No, it is not an important poll. Online polls are useless for anything but some fun.


32 posted on 08/11/2016 11:45:32 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: No_More_Harkin
My 2016 christmas wishes:
1. Trump is Prez.
2. Clinton is in jail, roundly humiliated, and broke.
3. Liberals suffer crushing defeats in every single election.

4. A unicorn

33 posted on 08/11/2016 11:56:59 AM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: jmaroneps37

The unknown Green candidate beats Hillary by 4 points? I’m skeptical.


34 posted on 08/11/2016 12:08:43 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: BigEdLB

“This poll has as much validity as the official ones. No poll is any good this year.”

True, but for different reasons.

All self-selected-sample polls lack validity — and that includes this on-line, self-selected poll. That’s simply because the sample wasn’t randomly-selected; so, we don’t know whether it’s representative of the whole population. Even when we like the results; it’s best to treat these polls with all the disdain they deserve.

The “official” reports lack validity, because they’re fraudulent. They’re dressed up like “scientific” polls; but, they’re fraudulent. Such fraud should be a crime, when it’s used to sway elections.


35 posted on 08/11/2016 12:19:28 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: jmaroneps37

Utter BS. I remember Ron Paul dominating every online poll that was taken in 2012 and 2008, too. Less meaning than meaningless.


36 posted on 08/11/2016 12:19:30 PM PDT by 2big2fail
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To: jmaroneps37
Really thanks so much for setting me straight I thought 66k respondents where they blocked your IP address after one vote was worth sometime; but you make a real fine point there, a real fine point ha ha ha.

I just voted 5 times in a row simply by clearing my cache/history. They are not blocking my IP after each vote.

These kinds of unscientific on-line polls are utterly and completely useless in determining the state of the race or who will win an election. Really, you should know better than to post this sort of nonsense.

37 posted on 08/11/2016 12:23:42 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: jmaroneps37
NBC needs to wake Hillary up LoL.


38 posted on 08/11/2016 12:47:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Longbow1969

“I just voted 5 times in a row simply by clearing my cache/history. They are not blocking my IP after each vote.” I suppose only you know that secret and Bernie’s people don’t know it. When you have That large a gap it is like the large gaps in “Who won the debates?” They were accurate indicators of Trump’s ultimate success. Take away nothing from this poll at your own peril. If you think it hasn’t been an upsetting factor in Hillaryland I disagree. It also shows a sharp lack of enthusiasm wouldn’t you agree?


39 posted on 08/11/2016 12:55:31 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Red Steel
She has a total of 1 1/2 hours of speech's this month. That is her total working hours. I always had this idea these presidential campaigns where difficult on these old people.

I guess i was wrong.

40 posted on 08/11/2016 1:14:26 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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