[Jonty30]

I know that, but they won’t have the mentality to consider anything else until a sense or normalcy of being drug free takes place. My proposal is just to get them to first break the relationship with always being high.

After 6 months, or before, then they could be approached about their spiritual life and mental health.

[WhoisAlanGreenspan?]

My son tried very hard. His last stab at rehab was his own idea that followed days of talks where I probably felt the closest I ever felt to him. He'd heard of farming or ranching camps where you just worked all day and there was nothing or anyone else around. Upper Michigan and maybe Colorado or something.

He never made it out of my backyard. That's where I found him.