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Hmm: Story begins to change on shooting of Philando Castile
Liberty Unyielding ^ | July 9, 2016 | J.E. Dyer

Posted on 07/10/2016 11:13:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Carl Vehse

His statement no matter what the situation was disgusting.
All he was doing was pandering to blacks,PERIOD


41 posted on 07/10/2016 12:39:25 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is any of this being picked up by the mainstream media?


42 posted on 07/10/2016 12:41:32 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: rockrr

That logic isn’t faulty. Take the “ifs” out of it. The robber was black, and the guy in the car was black. 1+1=2.


43 posted on 07/10/2016 12:54:42 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

At this point you have no proof that he “apparently did nothing wrong” anymore than there is proof he did anything. Why don’t people wait before having such positive opinions until evidence is forthcoming. Seems that attitude has led to the rioting.


44 posted on 07/10/2016 12:58:00 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: Molon Labbie
It has become fashionable to tell monstrous lies for video hits. It is getting people killed and if it does not get reined in by serious legislation, it will continue to get worse.

How do you rein in subnormal IQ morons? That is the average mentality of TWITS and Facebook types.

Their store of useful education and knowledge is essentially nil, yet they absolutely believe that their reasoning contribution is as important as that of people who actually know what they're talking about.

Remember, functional illiterates are elected to Congress and serve for decades. What does that say about their electorate?
THAT'S where serious legislation should be addressed first and foremost. Until that happens, things can only get worse.

What is so terrible about strict standards of qualifications to run for high federal and state offices?

A missing or imbecile head of household can only produce a criminal family.
A "not all there" elected to Congress can destroy hundreds of millions of families nationwide.

45 posted on 07/10/2016 1:00:19 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: publius911

“Why have blacks devolved into a stoneage response to public social civilized interaction? That they have is indisputable”.

I recall saying to my wife when TUTU won the NOBEL PRIZE—”There goes South Africa”.....Took longer than I thought, but even with a ‘head start’ from 100s of years of ‘White Occupation’ ( Laff there) it’s heading back to the stoneage....


46 posted on 07/10/2016 1:00:36 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: publius911
-- At least for the last 20 years, at the federal level, race has been forbidden in crime reports and statistics. --

I don't think that is true. Below is a fairly recent FBI summary. It breaks out the murder offenses by race of the offender.

Murder Offenders by Age, Sex, Race, and Ethnicity, 2014

-- Compound that stupidity by redefining felonies into "misdemeanors," ... --

I believe that is happening. The officials want to show "success," so they engage in creative accounting. See too, unemployment statistics.

47 posted on 07/10/2016 1:01:59 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Texan5

You are not alone. That cop was freaked out imo.
Yelling and scared to death was my assessment.


48 posted on 07/10/2016 1:04:32 PM PDT by MarMema (dog lives matter)
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To: nclaurel
At this point you have no proof that he “apparently did nothing wrong” anymore than there is proof he did anything.

Hence the word "apparently" - which is still enough to be concerned over this incident, hence I am.
49 posted on 07/10/2016 1:04:46 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: MarMema
Fortunately, what you see or not see here is not likely to be a positive influence in my life.
I can conclude that what I see is a bit more selective, and I can usually ignore posters who are clueless.
50 posted on 07/10/2016 1:05:01 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Yep.


51 posted on 07/10/2016 1:07:19 PM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: tumblindice

“...I wondered why the steering wheel was on the right side of the car.”

It seemed to flop back and forth with her videos. It confused the heck out of me.


52 posted on 07/10/2016 1:11:58 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Cboldt
I don't think that is true. Below is a fairly recent FBI summary. It breaks out the murder offenses by race of the offender.

You should dig a little deeper.
I believe today that RACE crime related statistics are compiled like global warming "facts" are compiled. Computer models and random "informal" unofficial crime sources, mostly academic, never verifiable.

Try to get an answer from the FBI as to the source of their race related crime data, the reliability and consistency of all the various sources and good luck to you.

53 posted on 07/10/2016 1:13:41 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: publius911
I wasn't claiming the data were reliable, just that they exist, and my prediction was that the existence of the data would be disappeared eventually.

You said race was forbidden from the reports, that was the only contention I rebutted.

54 posted on 07/10/2016 1:21:32 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some more info on the girlfriend and the child in the backseat taking it all in. Very disturbing YouTube videos considering the drug use and language and the child in the backseat.

http://madworldnews.com/philando-castile-girlfriend-exposed/


55 posted on 07/10/2016 1:23:07 PM PDT by gulf1609
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To: Talisker

There is a video on facebook by Coffey Anderson, Musician, showing what to do when you get stopped by police. It is informative and lot of common sense.

For men, says never sit on your wallet. Keep it out, in an area you can get to so when you get pulled over you get your DL and lay it on top of the dashboard. Hands on steering wheel with fingers spread out. Says keep your car registration where you can reach it as well.

Police get nervous when they can’t see your hands, you make sudden moves reaching for anything.


56 posted on 07/10/2016 1:31:59 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: CGASMIA68
The negligence of the Minnesota governor led to the deaths of 5 Dallas police officers. But as Coney would say, he did not have intent.
57 posted on 07/10/2016 1:37:30 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Even in expanded view, I do not see a gun in the man's lap. All I see is the seatbelt, apparently still buckled up.

There is one problem with getting a wallet out (of a man's rear pocket). Often, the seatbelt has to be disconnected first. If you do that BEFORE the police make it to the car -- they can write you up for not having a seatbelt on.

If you wait (hoping to avoid a b.s. traffic ticket) then are left with having to reach to a pocket (usually, with most men, a rear pocket) for a wallet, where the driver's license is very traditionally carried.

Police officers (with good sense?) very often stay to the rear and left of the driver while that kind of reaching is occurring. I've seen the police quite often put their hand on their own weapon during the time when a person is reaching for a pants pocket to retrieve the license. It seems like this recent incident in MN, the officer may have been towards the front and left of the driver?

*Some* people on this forum need to face the possibility that this may have been a bad shoot, albeit one predicated by similarity/ mistaken identity that could well enough have justified the initial police stop.

We don't have enough information yet to make critical judgement, and may never, regardless if the officer was too trigger happy -or was in some way justified.

If the deceased was NOT reaching for a gun (and why would he tell the officer he had a permit, and was armed, if he was planning on shooting a police officer?) then it WAS a bad shoot, one driven by fear.

That the "girlfriend" was a heavy pot smoker, or even that it may have been a low level marijuana sales (and smoke a little?), still, if the man was not reaching for a gun, and I would dare say if a gun not in view, then the police officer began shooting unjustifiably.

I'm sure I'll get lectures here now all about how dangerous it can be to be a police officer. It can be, and is. It can also be dangerous to be driving while black, with 'black' criminals willing to fight it out with police officers having been much of the reason for just why. Historically, there have always been more than a few 'white' criminals who are willing to fight with the police (have taken shots at them, sometimes killing an officer) too, so I need no lectures from others here. I'm getting old, and have guns stuck in my face many times -- and have lived through it so far. I do know how to act and not get shot by police, or bad guys, either(!), or at least have been able to successfully extemporize, so far.

58 posted on 07/10/2016 1:39:28 PM PDT by 7MMmag ( ...itty-bitty hole goin' in, big hole goin' out. bullets that spin and explode sold separately)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should give the officer a medal.


59 posted on 07/10/2016 1:44:42 PM PDT by Jack023
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are millions of black Americans that don’t cling to the special privilege of not taking responsibility for their actions or their welfare but there also millions that do. It’s America’s biggest challenge to break the Democrats’ grip on the latter.


60 posted on 07/10/2016 1:49:33 PM PDT by Crucial
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