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Detroit’s Economic Fortunes Won’t Get a Kick Out of Subsidizing a New Soccer Stadium
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 6/26/2016 | Dr. Christopher Douglas

Posted on 06/29/2016 7:58:23 AM PDT by MichCapCon

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1 posted on 06/29/2016 7:58:23 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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Yeah....all the bangers in the hood just love them some soccer!!!!!!


2 posted on 06/29/2016 8:00:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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The city looks like a nuclear bomb hit it and they want to build a soccer stadium in the middle of it. It will look strange. How long before it looks as run down and beat up as most of the other unused buildings in Detroit?


3 posted on 06/29/2016 8:06:53 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Building a brand new stadium for soccer ?

Seriously, how stupid is that ? that’s a dumb idea anywhere in the country...

Ford Field would work just fine...for a new team...

I wonder how many MLS teams are actually viable entities....


4 posted on 06/29/2016 8:07:14 AM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone..)
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To: MichCapCon

Makes a great place to make peeps go hunger games on each other.


5 posted on 06/29/2016 8:07:44 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist
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“How long before it looks as run down and beat up as most of the other unused buildings in Detroit?”
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About a year.


6 posted on 06/29/2016 8:20:11 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Gaffer

“Yeah....all the bangers in the hood just love them some soccer!!!!!!”

It’s for all the illegals and Muslims that are taking over our cities.


7 posted on 06/29/2016 8:28:00 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: MichCapCon

hacky sack stadium would be a better fit?


8 posted on 06/29/2016 8:29:19 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Popman

I’d prefer shoving a skewer stick in an anthill and watching the result. Far more action and entertainment.


9 posted on 06/29/2016 8:30:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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"Building a brand new stadium for soccer? Seriously, how stupid is that?"

Pretty stupid, I guess. Especially when the Pontiac Silverdome is still standing.




10 posted on 06/29/2016 8:33:12 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: MichCapCon
What will save Detroit is three parts:

1. Shrink the physical size of the city--that could happen within the next ten years.
2. Completely redo the city employees pension program--already done.
3. Transition the city from depending on the automotive industry to one based on US-Canada trans-border trade--about to happen with the construction of the Gordie Howe International Crossing bridge to bypass the bottleneck called the Ambassador Bridge.

11 posted on 06/29/2016 8:34:10 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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The initial plan for the team’s new stadium was to place it on the site of the unfinished Wayne County jail, and there’s been some talk about financing the project, in part, with taxpayer dollars.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Detroit could use a completed Wayne County jail more than it could use a soccer stadium.

12 posted on 06/29/2016 8:36:34 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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Indeed.


13 posted on 06/29/2016 8:36:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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This reminds me of the effort of Camden, NJ to have a minor league baseball team in town. They spent taxpayer dollars on a beautiful stadium—a dozen years later the team left after years of terrible attendance.

The empty stadium sits there as a reminder of the stupidity/corruption of local officials.

You can be sure any stadium construction project involves kickbacks to local officials and a ripoff of local and state taxpayers.


14 posted on 06/29/2016 8:37:33 AM PDT by cgbg (Epistemology is not a spectator sport.)
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Attendance at MLS games has been strong and growing, averaging 21,574 fans per match in 2015 — more than the NBA’s average of 17,826.

21,574 fans at STADIUMS that hold 60,000-80,000

17,826 fans at ARENAS that hold less than 20,000

Now I'm sure there are a stadium or two that hold less than 60 and an arena or two that hold more than 20, but to use this comparison is pure BS!

Also, I'll bet my next pension check that 21,574 figure is total attendance, not PAID attendance.

Figures lie and liars figure.

15 posted on 06/29/2016 8:44:39 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN....JOURNALIST..............." four letter words" spelled with ten letters.)
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Aren’t the majority of MLS stadiums in the 20,000 capacity range?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer-specific_stadium


16 posted on 06/29/2016 8:48:00 AM PDT by nascarnation
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Aren’t the majority of MLS stadiums in the 20,000 capacity range?

Yes, but someone didn’t bother researching before.

His point is valid about that the NBA would likely draw more fans if the Arenas were bigger. Remember that some NBA franchises tried playing in football arenas and it didn’t work for most.

As for the poster who questioned the viability of the franchises . . . the league is designed to be lower cost by limiting the amount spent on ‘world class’ name players and having a very US-centric roster. You would think that would be an attractive feature to many of our Freepers.

If a stadium can be built that doesn’t require much public assistance (i.e. - limited to property tax relief for example) then why not? The Red Wings are very successful. It’s a pretty darn good sports city. The Tigers average about 30,000 per game.


17 posted on 06/29/2016 9:01:20 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: RayChuang88

What will save Detroit ultimately depends on disallowing it to be run by leftists or corrupt and incompetent black people.

That is the crux.

There is not a single black run city on this planet that is run competently.


18 posted on 06/29/2016 9:25:17 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (n't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: nascarnation

Gotta say I was NOT aware that there were that many soccer specific stadiums.

However, MLS does NOT play solely in “soccer specific” stadiums. At least a half dozen teams play in much larger stadiums...RFK, Yankee, Gillette and more

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer

So my apples and oranges comparison stands.

BTW, I follow neither sport


19 posted on 06/29/2016 9:26:22 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN....JOURNALIST..............." four letter words" spelled with ten letters.)
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Yes, but someone didn’t bother researching before.

YUP! But I corrected that in my #19.

NBA wouldn't play well in football stadiums because a lot of fans would be too far from the court.

20 posted on 06/29/2016 9:32:40 AM PDT by Roccus (POLITICIAN....JOURNALIST..............." four letter words" spelled with ten letters.)
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