Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Oberlin Students Want Below-Average Grades Abolished, Midterms Replaced with Conversations
Reason Magazine's Hit & Run Blog ^ | May 24, 2016 | Robby Soave

Posted on 05/26/2016 9:19:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

'I literally am so tired of learning about Marx, when he did not include race in his discussion of the market!'

Oberlin College's activist community is ready to call it quits. Progressive students are dropping out of college, citing academic and emotional difficulties stemming from their mental health problems and overall disgust with the toxic culture on campus.

That's according to a fascinating piece for The New Yorker by Nathan Heller, who interviewed a number of exhausted activists at Oberlin. They perceive that other students, faculty members, and the administration are completely against them, and have made it impossible for them to live on campus. Some are dropping out.

Of course, some of these students probably feel unsupported because their impractical demands were not realized. Two examples: activist students not only wanted to abolish all grades below a 'C,' they also thought faculty members should proactively offer them alternatives to taking a written, in-class midterm exam. Here is the testimony of Megan Bautista, who identifies as an Afro-Latinx student:

Protest surged again in the fall of 2014, after the killing of Tamir Rice. “A lot of us worked alongside community members in Cleveland who were protesting. But we needed to organize on campus as well—it wasn’t sustainable to keep driving forty minutes away. A lot of us started suffering academically.” In 1970, Oberlin had modified its grading standards to accommodate activism around the Vietnam War and the Kent State shootings, and Bautista had hoped for something similar. More than thirteen hundred students signed a petition calling for the college to eliminate any grade lower than a C for the semester, but to no avail. “Students felt really unsupported in their endeavors to engage with the world outside Oberlin,” she told me.

If students take their activism more seriously than their classes, that's their choice. And certainly much good can come from an organized, aware, activist community on a college campus. But in some sense, doesn't school have to be about, well, learning? And measuring whether students are in fact learning?

And then there's this, from student Zakiya Acey:

“Because I’m dealing with having been arrested on campus, or having to deal with the things that my family are going through because of larger systems—having to deal with all of that, I can’t produce the work that they want me to do. But I understand the material, and I can give it to you in different ways. There’s professors who have openly been, like, ‘Yeah, instead of, you know, writing out this midterm, come in to my office hours, and you can just speak it,’ right? But that’s not institutionalized. I have to find that professor.”

Again, it's great that some professors are willing to make that accommodation, but should it be an institutionalized policy? Should we handicap professors' abilities to grade their students because some of those students think organizing and protesting is more important than class?

The students Heller interviewed seem to think they're not at college to be educated: they are at college to educate everyone else. As Jasmine Adams, a member of the black student union, put it:

“We’re asking to be reflected in our education,” Adams cuts in. “I literally am so tired of learning about Marx, when he did not include race in his discussion of the market!” She shrugs incredulously. “As a person who plans on returning to my community, I don’t want to assimilate into middle-class values. I’m going home, back to the ’hood of Chicago, to be exactly who I was before I came to Oberlin.”

While I share Adam's view that Marx is over-taught in college, I question her desire to leave college as a completely unchanged human being. You should change who you are, and what you think, in college. It's a transformative experience. That's the entire point. It's what you're paying for.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; Politics
KEYWORDS: college; education; oberlin
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-44 next last
To: 2ndDivisionVet

“We pretend to study and they pretend to issue us diplomas”


21 posted on 05/26/2016 9:56:28 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

the “college” in my town (Evergreen State College), does not have grades. They have “evaluations” that is a written discussion between them and their prof, and in some courses, student peer review.

Problem is, employers have no clue how a chem major (for example) did in their course work.

Wouldn’t you love to have a chemist in your testing lab who was liked by their fellow students but couldn’t tell a dropper pipette from a molecule?


22 posted on 05/26/2016 9:58:03 AM PDT by llevrok (Lies are born the moment someone thinks the truth is dangerous.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Colleges are the Petri dish for cancerous communism.

A great purge is needed.


23 posted on 05/26/2016 9:58:32 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Why isn't Hillary in jail?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just sayin.....

When the bogus Black Lives Matter protests started in Cleveland, it wasn't local blacks populating the protests. It was students bussed in from suburban colleges, most noticeably Oberlin, who knew what was best for inner city blacks. They were totally used suckers used to ignite the movement.

Then, a little later, they found out they were in danger of failing courses because of missed classes or exams or whatever. So they demanded to be let off the hook for that. (so much for commitment to a cause and making sacrifices).

These prima donnas are already a pathetic joke. So now they want bad grades to be disallowed. GIVE ME A BREAK. Oberlin used to be a highly thought of college.

24 posted on 05/26/2016 10:01:01 AM PDT by grania
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone’s special snowflake doesn’t understand what average means.


25 posted on 05/26/2016 10:04:33 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (I before E, except after C. Weird.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DIRTYSECRET

I’d say make them at least watch “The Wizard of Oz”, and them award the ThDs. (”That’s... Doctor of Thinkology.”)


26 posted on 05/26/2016 10:16:14 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Tennessee Nana

Ya know who went to Oberlin? Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, the mayoress of Baltimore, the one that was worried somebody going about their own business might hurt or inconvenience the rioters and looters exercising their First Amendment Rights.


27 posted on 05/26/2016 10:26:46 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I propose a sign for every structure in the USA, if it was designed by a graduate of Oberlin:

“Warning: This structure was designed by a graduate of Oberlin college, which abolished below-average grades.

Only liberals are allowed to enter.”

Mark


28 posted on 05/26/2016 10:51:53 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t care what Oberlin College students want. Do they want Ds and F’s banned? Fine with me. Do they want to be exempted from taking tests? Fine with me. It makes it easier when I’m reviewing resumes for a job. If I see Oberlin College, I throw the resume out.


29 posted on 05/26/2016 11:00:40 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“A lot of us started suffering academically.”

Well, you’re the one paying tens of thousands in tuition every year (or your parents if they are suckers). If you choose to squander that by not making academics your top priority, nobody is going to try to stop you. Welcome to the wonderful world of adult personal responsibility, kiddos.


30 posted on 05/26/2016 11:10:12 AM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obvious end-point for progressive education. Four years (maybe) to become a farce. Hirable only by fellow snowflakes which is, unfortunately, a growth area for (duh) Academia, Foundations, Environmental NGOs, Government Bureaus and HR Depts within businesses (required by Government - of course!)


31 posted on 05/26/2016 11:11:12 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mears

I won’t write the script of the oppressors!!!! :)


32 posted on 05/26/2016 11:13:45 AM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: bgill

Don’t worry, she can still put her college activism on her resume and get a job with a community organizer funded by taxpayer dollars!


33 posted on 05/26/2016 11:16:31 AM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: DIRTYSECRET

They’re working on it, by eliminating the value of a college “education”. It won’t be long and students will start to wonder, “Why am I going to college if all it amounts to is me being $75,000+ in debt?”


34 posted on 05/26/2016 11:17:44 AM PDT by cincinnati65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
“We’re asking to be reflected in our education,” Adams cuts in. “I literally am so tired of learning about Marx, when he did not include race in his discussion of the market!”

What does race have to do with the market? (crickets)

35 posted on 05/26/2016 11:19:21 AM PDT by cincinnati65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
activist students not only wanted to abolish all grades below a 'C,' they also thought faculty members should proactively offer them alternatives to taking a written, in-class midterm exam.

anti-effort mentality + expecting effects without causes + emotionalism = irrational libtard loser

36 posted on 05/26/2016 11:25:31 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just give everyone above average grades.


37 posted on 05/26/2016 11:25:34 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo

I doubt that they actually studied anything. They honestly can’t grasp why someone in mid-Nineteenth century Europe didn’t consider “other races”. Or why not sexual orientations for that matter?

These nimrods believe that anyone who doesn’t think exactly like they do has nothing to offer them. College is an absolute waste for these people.


38 posted on 05/26/2016 11:34:42 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: mjp

anti-effort mentality + expecting effects without causes + emotionalism = irrational libtard loser


Yeah, you would think that. But would not be surprised to see Ms. Adams as a future Attorney General.


39 posted on 05/26/2016 11:35:45 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

40 posted on 05/26/2016 11:38:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-44 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson