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Once Upon a Time…In the US Army
US Defense Watch ^ | April 21, 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 04/21/2016 11:24:07 PM PDT by pboyington

One of the best parts about writing articles is watching the comments drift in, some well-intentioned and full of good cheer, others laced with arsenic from irate readers.

A few comments this week and comments by a sergeant in the Rangers and an active duty buddy of mine, who’s probably the last guy in the Army with a 3rd Armored Division combat patch have prompted me to write this piece.

First the naysayers:

What do you know? You served in the Army a long time ago. You were in that Desert Storm War. What makes you qualified to judge the Army now? That Desert Storm War, aka the Gulf War…in the US Army, a long time ago.

And, the comment from the oldest Lieutenant-Colonel in the US Army who dons the famous Spearhead patch. “You know the Army just isn’t any fun anymore.”

Yeah, sure looks that way doesn’t it?

And, lastly a tidbit from a Sergeant in the Ranger Training Brigade; “I’m sick of this PC crap! I wish I would have been in the old Army.”

The old Army…

Shortly after the US Army’s overwhelming victory in the Gulf War, noted historian Stephen Ambrose remarked on a news program that the US Army that won the Gulf War was the greatest army the nation had fielded since the Army of Northern Virginia.

Being placed on the same level of competence as Lee, Stuart, Jackson, Longstreet and those boys in gray is a tall order to fill.

Was the US Army that won Desert Storm really that good? If so, what made it that competent? Was it the soldiers? Was it the training? Was it the fact that our senior leaders had real courage?

The senior leadership in the Desert Storm Army was not even comparable to today’s cast of characters. The Army’s generals and colonels and senior enlisted personnel had all served in Vietnam. They were determined to never repeat the same mistakes that had been made in Southeast Asia. More importantly, the troops knew that their leaders, from their platoon sergeant all the way to the Chairman of the JCS cared about them. I have a hard time believing the soldiers in today’s Army have such faith in their leadership. Why should they? The Army’s senior leaders are selling them out at every turn.

I have a hard time believing that a Norman Schwarzkopf or a Barry McCaffrey or a Colonel Bob “Diggin” Higgins would have ever put up with the social engineering policies that are destroying the Army today.

The Army of Desert Storm was filled with Vietnam veterans, in fact we probably had fifty or so in the 4th Squadron, 7th Cavalry, some of them chopper pilots and of course our command sergeant major, who had done five, count ‘em five tours in Vietnam with the 173rd Airborne Brigade.

Lieutenant General Fred Franks, the VII Corps commander was an amputee, who often described the hot blue flame that burned inside him, an intensity to never again replicate the disastrous mistakes from Vietnam. I remember attending a VII Corps briefing before deploying. General Franks, choking back tears, limping to the map board, remarked, “This one, we’re going to do right. This one we’re going all the way.”

We believed him. More importantly, we trusted him. We trusted all of them.

The US soldiers that won the Gulf War, didn’t really win it for America or the Army. They won it for every Vietnam vet who had been spit on, insulted and denigrated by his fellow American citizens after coming home. Our victory in the Gulf War was their redemption.

We were an Army with technology that would terrify any Millennial today. Our S-2 section had typewriters and rotary phones. On top of the phone was a sticker with a direct number to Checkpoint Charlie. Why anyone in Central Germany, hundreds of miles away from West Berlin, needed to call Checkpoint Charlie was always a mystery to me.

It was an Army that was unencumbered by social engineering and political correctness. Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em was the rallying cry of every formation. Booze was free flowing. Every Friday was Officers Professional Development at the O Club. Someone would give a presentation on a military subject and then the bar would be opened an hour later by the commander. The bar would stay open until the last cav trooper stumbled out or was carried to one of the old rooms above the club, where reportedly Hermann Goering had stayed one night.

One of the soldiers in the S-2 section was occasionally drunk on duty. During an alert we had to toss him into a shower, pour coffee down him and then pry him into the driver’s compartment of our APC. As he drove, I directed him from the TC hatch. He managed to knock down 27 fog markers that dark morning. Several months later, he was intoxicated and made unavailable for his promotion to corporal. His drinking became so bad that he found himself in the local German hospital. He escaped one night and ran across town in his gown, when he heard that the last group of 7th Cav troopers was heading out to the Middle East. Let’s just say he dried out in the desert.

At the infamous US Army training area in Germany, Grafenwoehr, aka Graf, troopers barreled over to the O Club every Tuesday and Thursday evenings for Stripper Nights. Drunken arguments and damage to property sometimes took place, as when my buddy, a recently retired colonel, destroyed a $10,000 Wurlitzer Jukebox in the Graf O Club. At Hohenfels, another miserable patch of training area in Bavaria, aviators from our unit tore the urinals in the latrine off the walls and trashed some other areas of the club before exiting in a drunken stupor. To this day, I’ve never figured out how they got all those urinals off the walls.

For those poor slobs who managed to get in trouble, a NCO would always host a GI Party of Swingin’ Richards to clean the barracks. Others would paint rocks and mow lawns all weekend. Those who truly offended the command sergeant major would find themselves in a wall to wall counseling session with him. Cornered in a small office with a man with a big fist is no place to be.

Sergeants had no problem knocking sense into a young private. Our S-2 senior NCO decked our junior NCO in the mouth and knocked him off the roof of our APC during an outdoor counseling session in the desert.

I’m not sure these scenarios are part of day to day life in the Army anymore.

Back then, the Army didn’t really care what you did, as long as you weren’t breaking any laws and you did your job.

Maybe things were more black and white. First the Soviets were the bad guys. We were there to stop them from even thinking about attacking Western Europe. Then, when the Wall came down, the Iraqis were the bad guys. No problem. We’ll handle that too.

The Army as an organization was stronger, because the men who led it were determined to maintain the traditions of the service. They had crawled out of the ashes of Vietnam and rebooted the Army from the ground up by discharging druggies, troublemakers and slackers. The Army today, in contrast, is rotting from the head and needs to be rebuilt from the top down.

We were the eyes and ears of the vaunted Spearhead Division. The Third Armored Division had fought valiantly across Western Europe in World War II and had battled its way into Germany. The division had literally parked its vehicles in 1945 and never left the continent after that, except for a brief deactivation in the late 40’s.

When 3AD received orders to deploy to Saudi Arabia with VII Corps in November of 1990, soldiers experienced a multitude of emotions, one of them was certainly the disbelief that any US Army unit in Germany could ever really deploy anywhere except to Graf or down the autobahn to participate in Reforger.

Most of the Desert Storm Army, minus the 82nd or the 101st, was a massive, slow moving, industrial age behemoth. As my buddy, the S-1 remarked to me. “No one is going anywhere. Some of these vehicles haven’t even been started since Elvis was driving them.”

Well, we did go somewhere…to the big sandbox.

The US Army in Desert Storm had a lot of money and equipment and parts. In Damman, Saudi Arabia, at the port, there were literally miles of parked tanks, APC’s, trucks, Hummers and every kind of piece of equipment imaginable. And, that was only reserve equipment.

The power unleashed by America on Iraq was simply unbelievable. The use of massive military might on an enemy is something that has been completely forgotten by the Obama Administration as we drop two bombs a day on ISIS.

Bush 41, a veteran of WWII was our commander in chief. He was playing for keeps.

On the first night of the Gulf War, I watched as hundreds and hundreds of planes flew over our assembly area on their way to Iraq. At that time we were perhaps 90 miles from the border and the aircraft still had their lights on. It was an awesome display of air power. It was something out of a movie. It was spine tingling.

As VII Corps moved to the Iraq border in preparation for the Ground War, we watched in awe as thousands of tanks, APC’s, trucks and everything else in the arsenal redeployed to the FAA. The forces that Schwarzkopf had arrayed against Iraq comprised the largest invasion force since D-Day.

Like I said, it was something out of a movie.

Certainly the Desert Storm Army had its share of problems. We were large and slow and particularly the VII Corps from Europe, which had elements from V Corps as well, never deployed anywhere. Our technology in the field was limited at best. We arrived in Saudi Arabia without maps and the TOC used a couple Rand McNally maps my dad had mailed me. I led a convoy hundreds of miles from the port to the TAA, by navigating with a compass and a map that was a photocopied page from the World Book Encyclopedia. My only instructions were to look for a green barrel in the desert.

Our radios were from the 1960’s and had a very limited range. During the Ground War, we had to send spot reports through several relays before they could get to the division TAC. The only guy with a good radio was the Air Force Liaison Officer.

Our leaders had moral courage. But, they made mistakes. History has recorded them. Were we as good as Stephen Ambrose thought? Maybe; we had a lot of training and we were told that we were good all the time. After a while, you start to believe it.

Today, the feminists cry out about the unabashed macho culture of the old Army and its unrelenting drinking, carousing and Black Sheep Squadron fraternity mentality.

Some of today’s soldiers seem to look down on the Army that won Desert Storm. Those who served multiple tours in the horrific violence of Iraq and Afghanistan will say things like, “Those guys we’re only there for six months and they strutted around like they were the freaking Afrika Korps!”

They look at us perhaps the way a WWI doughboy looked at one of Teddy Roosevelt’s Rough Riders from the Spanish-American War. Those guys from that splendid little war, what do they know?

The greatest lessons the Desert Storm Army can impart on today’s Army is that without senior leaders who really care and have moral courage, the Army is severely weakened, if not doomed.

This is particularly the case as today’s Army is assaulted day after day by lunatic feminist policies, which will destroy the institution if they’re not stopped.

Today’s soldiers have showed the world their bravery and endurance. If only the Army’s senior leadership had one tenth of the courage its soldiers have exhibited.

The leaders of the Army today would be wise to study the Army of Desert Storm and the reasons for its many successes and few failures.


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: army; feminism; obama; schwarzkopf; usarmy
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1 posted on 04/21/2016 11:24:07 PM PDT by pboyington
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To: pboyington

Never served, so I can’t speak directly. But the oldest bro, who served in the USA from the late 50s to the late 70s, got out because he said he said he could see it starting to go to Hades in a handbag back then. I sorely miss him - but I hate to think what he’d have to say, if he were still with us, about how things are now, esp. under The One.


2 posted on 04/21/2016 11:32:40 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: pboyington

My grandson took basic training at Jackson last July. I was quite impressed at the professionalism shown there. It seemed to much better, way, way more technical, intellectual, and physically demanding than in my day, sixty years ago (even though the training battalion had women).


3 posted on 04/22/2016 12:04:44 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: pboyington

Thanks for a Very Fine post. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM....seems you forgot the Marines though. AND what about the French who made the great tank sweep to completely fool Saddam?
I love our Army, but I’m partial to the Marines. I remember meeting an old Army guy who had fought at Tarawa. His remark to me was “Thank God for the U.S. Marines. They saved my butt.”
We DO need to get our Military back on the right path, strengthen them and dump the ridiculous ROE strangling them. PLEASE, Trump, GET RID of the mama’s boys and P.C. critters destroying our Armed Forces.


4 posted on 04/22/2016 12:17:25 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: pboyington

I was in the Army at the time period this guy is referring to. I’ll just say that either he was in a particularly hardcore unit (one of the last most likely) or he is idealizing his experience through the lens of nostalgia.


5 posted on 04/22/2016 12:29:44 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: pboyington

Very good article.

One of the key sentences: The greatest lessons the Desert Storm Army can impart on today’s Army is that without senior leaders who really care and have moral courage, the Army is severely weakened, if not doomed.

The big negative I’ve had about Desert Storm is Colin Powell, who convinced Bush 41 to pull out before destroying Saddam and his regime. That stupid decision and 9/11 required Bush 43 to send our forces back to Iraq.


6 posted on 04/22/2016 1:38:50 AM PDT by octex
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To: pboyington
I had a Colonel tell me one time while I was briefing him on some of my Signal Comms equipment, "you know, I've only got 18 years in and I'm thinking about getting out." I just about doubled over laughing and we smiled and he left laughing.

One of my soldiers back in the early eighties doing an OVM layout in the motorpool was being inspected by a Colonel and he asked a PFC for a look at some parts on a deuce and a half where the soldier had to climb up during mid winter in Korea. The COL looked pleased and the soldier jumped down. The COL said "you don't look too happy with this inspection this morning". The PFC replied "sir, it's colder than hell out here this morning". The COL laughed finished and went on to the next vehicle.

7 posted on 04/22/2016 2:54:30 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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Was stationed with the 3rd AD in Bamberg Germany in the army 80's. Their CSM dictated that the greeting of the day on Fridays would be "Kill Russians Sir".

I imagine today that CSM would be ordered to undergo sensitivity training as well as issue an apology to Gorbachev.

8 posted on 04/22/2016 3:44:44 AM PDT by capydick
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To: pboyington

The part about the miles of equipment struck me. I was doing work at a Navy base in NJ (Bayonne???). Anyway, I would drive over there every day - listening to the radio for the hour it took. All of the news was about Iraq and the “negotiations”.

Would show up at the port every day with ships stacked up and row upon row of tanks and hummvees and all sorts of other stuff. All out in the open. It was weeks like that.

“Oh sure - negotiations. Well, I guess one has to do SOMETHING while you’re waiting for all your stuff to get over there.”


9 posted on 04/22/2016 3:57:40 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: octex

Thanks for that little bit of reality the writer seemed to have overlooked. Gen. Franks was sorely mistaken in his bold statement because the leadership above him failed, IMO.


10 posted on 04/22/2016 4:02:50 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

Poor senior leadership at all levels is very bad. Today, the Marines are the only service who put up any type of resistance to SJW and their endless agenda. I hate to think what it will look like in the future. These guys are sure screwing up the legacy which they were given.


11 posted on 04/22/2016 5:09:02 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: pboyington
Being placed on the same level of competence as Lee, Stuart, Jackson, Longstreet and those boys in gray is a tall order to fill.

Those guys lost
12 posted on 04/22/2016 5:24:19 AM PDT by stylin19a
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Not until after they’d won just about everything else.


13 posted on 04/22/2016 6:27:03 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: pboyington

I knew we were in trouble when the memo came down saying that it wasn’t fair to evaluate Soldiers based on their performance in combat.

What else would you use to evaluate a Soldier?


14 posted on 04/22/2016 6:31:47 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: fr_freak
I was in the Army over in Germany then, in a Main Support Bn Light Maint Co. The author must have been in a different Army. Where I was excessive drinking was not celebrated, drug use would get you a dishonorable discharge, and damaging local property would get you an Article 15 with loss of rank, pay, etc. plus you'd pay for what you damaged. There were plenty of majors and colonels more interested in their next promotion than the welfare of their soldiers.

I don't think there was ever any doubt what the outcome of Desert Storm was going to be. To me it was obvious that we'd sweep in a broad flanking maneuver. The Iraqis probably knew that, too, but they were trapped in having to hold on to Kuwait. The political situation and the terrain defined the campaign. Iraq lost because their army was two generations behind the US Army. They fought as best they could but I think they knew they would lose.

15 posted on 04/22/2016 6:48:32 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To me it was obvious that we'd sweep in a broad flanking maneuver. The Iraqis probably knew that, too, but they were trapped in having to hold on to Kuwait.

I read that after the war one of our officers was talking with his Iraqi counterpart. When the flanking maneuver was brought up, the Iraqi asked how we did it since "even we get lost out there".

The officer then told him about GPS and he nodded and said, "Oh, I see, your generals had the latest tech equipment". Our guy said something like, "Our generals? Hell, our platoon leaders had them!". The Iraqi put his hand over his mouth and kept saying "Oh My!, Oh My!" as he finally realized what he had been up against.

16 posted on 04/22/2016 8:01:02 AM PDT by Oatka (Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.)
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To: octex

Colin Powell played only a minor role.

GHW Bush was a foreign policy realist who took the advice of men like Brent Scowcroft. They well understood the major problems involved in conquering and occupying an Islamic country. Once Saddam Hussein was driven out of Kuwait with his army in ruins he was no threat to his neighbors. He wasn’t even a regional power. He had spent 10 years fighting Iran with nothing to show for it.

GW Bush on the other hand was filled to the brim with the utopian nonsense of the democracy project neocons that he took on as advisers. They believed that it is possible to reconstruct Arab states at will and Iraq was to be their test case. And they didn’t believe that Islam had a vote in what they were planning. Too bad that they didn’t pay the price themselves instead of the GIs sent to put their experiment into practice.


17 posted on 04/22/2016 10:41:19 AM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: captain_dave

I was 11m in Germany and went to Desert Storm. My experience lines up with yours pretty well.


18 posted on 04/22/2016 12:10:01 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Mollypitcher1

The Army wasn’t at Tarawa. Maybe you mean another place.


19 posted on 04/22/2016 12:17:06 PM PDT by Rockpile (GOP legislators-----caviar eating surrender monkeys.)
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To: Rockpile

Thanks for the correction. I somehow thought it was elsewhere after I posted. Will have to go back and check my map. Thanks again.


20 posted on 04/22/2016 1:10:46 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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