Posted on 04/15/2016 9:31:21 PM PDT by pboyington
The US Navy has taken three torpedoes to its bow and is going down.
These are trying times for the US Navy. It seems that every two weeks or so there is some crisis engulfing the once proud, competent and steadfast organization that used to be a bedrock of the nations defense.
The performance and conduct of the US Navy lately has seemed like something emanating from a Third World, Banana Republic coastal defense force; heavy on medals and light on brains, skills and tenacious fighting spirit.
Two days ago the USS Donald Cook was taunted and embarrassed by Russian SU-24 fighters who used the guided missile destroyer as mock target practice during danger close gun runs on the vessel.
According to CBS News:
A senior defense official told CBS News that two recent incidents were more aggressive than anything weve seen in some time.
The first, on April 11, involved two Russian SU24s, when the USS Donald Cook left the Polish port of Gdynia and was about 70 nautical miles from Kaliningrad in the Baltic Sea. The official said the Russian jets made 20 passes of the American ship and flew within 1,000 yards at an altitude of just 100 feet.
In the second incident on April 12, two Russian KA27 Helix helicopters flew several circles around the Donald Cook, apparently taking photos, after which two jets again made numerous close passes of the ship in what the official described as Simulated Attack Profile.
The U.S. ship tried to contact the planes cockpit, but received no response.
The Russian plane, which the U.S. says was unarmed, made at least 12 passes. This continued for about 90 minutes. The event ended without incident.
Twelve passes for 90, count em, NINETY minutes and all the US Navy did was video the incident and put it on You Tube and Facebook so they could get a few likes.
Where in the heck was Naval Air the whole time to chase away the Russian aircraft? I find it hard to believe that a US Navy destroyer was wandering around in the Baltic by itself.
US Navy air power seemed to be as absent from this disgraceful incident as it was in the Persian Gulf when the Navy was surrendering to Iranian thugs in dinghies.
And, it gets worse. It seems that the Russians pulled this same act with the USS Donald Cook in 2014 and all we did was sit there and twiddle our thumbs.
The Iranians also know were a weak sister. Lieutenant David Nartker, commanding officer of two US Navy Riverine boats, surrendered his men and his craft with superior firepower and navigation systems to a half dozen Iranian thugs in bass boats that they had stolen from Babe Winkelmans fishing show. Nartker surrendered without firing so much as a flare. After boarding the Navy boats, Nartker and his men were ordered down on their knees while the Iranians trained machine guns and cameras on them.
Nartker doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on his disgraceful conduct by telling a worldwide TV audience that the Iranians hospitality was just fabulous. To add insult to injury, one of his men, felt it was an opportune time to start bawling his head off like he was a guest on Oprah.
As of now, the public has never been told what actually happened in the Persian Gulf. The Pentagon is very adept at hiding things.
Smoke and Mirrors is job one at the Pentagon.
Ash Carter may be able to stow Nartker away in preparation for his eventual assignment as Chief of Naval Operations, but he cant hide the Navys incompetence and cowardice from the enemies of this nation.
We are weak and the bad guys damned well know it.
The word is out on the high seas, on the Arab Street, in the mountains of Afghanistan and in the snowdrifts of the Kremlin; the US military is a feminized weakling. Its senior leaders are the rubber men of Arlington and its commander in chief learned how to street fight on the set of Will and Grace.
The word is out. You can taunt, harass, kick, capture and throw sand in the face of the US Navy and nothing will happen to you because the US Navy doesnt have the leadership, or the stones to do a damned thing about it.
Superseding the sickening display of fecklessness on the Baltic Sea was the revelation this week that US Navy Lieutenant Commander Edward Lin faces charges of espionage, attempted espionage, patronizing a prostitute, adultery and falsifying federal records.
Lins last duty station before being arrested was with Special Projects Patrol Squadron 2 in Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii, from February 2014 to March 2016. The unit flies the P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft, searching for enemy submarines and performing reconnaissance and intelligence-gathering operations in the Pacific.
This week the Washington Post also learned that Lin has been in the brig for eight months, conveniently hidden from the public by the Pentagon. Whats new? The Pentagon has more dirt under the E-Ring Oriental rug than all the sawdust in America.
Lin, a Taiwanese-born naturalized American, seems to have successfully dodged the CI boys in low quarters and white socks for years, while passing vital national security information to the Chinese.
Speaking of national security scandals, there is the ongoing Fat Leonard Affair, which involves the Chief of Naval Intelligence.
Fat Leonard is not a villain on Hawaii Five-O, but the Malaysian defense contractor, Leonard Glenn Francis, who pleaded guilty to orchestrating one of the U.S. Navys biggest corruption scandals. Standing 6 feet, 3 inches, and weighing some 350 pounds, the 51-year-old is better known as Fat Leonard in Navy circles, and has admitted to bribing countless Navy officials with cash, prostitutes and lavish gifts.
Fat Leonard was the CEO of the Glenn Defense Marina Asia group, headquartered in Singapore. He initially fought the charges, but after a wave of defendants admitted their complicity, he later admitted he overcharged the U.S. Navy by more than $20 million for fuel, food and other services at his Asian ports, and also invented tariffs via fake port authorities. Between 2004 and 2013, Francis plied Navy officials with gifts of cash exceeding $500,000, promises of sex from prostitutes amounting to hundreds of thousands of dollars, all-expense-paid hotel stays, Cuban cigars and various other material gifts, according to his plea agreement.
In return, Francis received classified information such as ship schedules from various naval officers, including Cmdr. Michael Vannak Khem Misiewicz, who was seen as a rising star in the Navy, according to Raw Story. Misiewicz and Francis moved Navy vessels like chess pieces, diverting aircraft carriers, destroyers and other ships to Asian ports with lax oversight where Francis could inflate costs, the criminal complaint alleges, according to AP. Misiewicz maintains his innocence and has pleaded not guilty.
Eight people, including Misiewicz, have been implicated in the corruption scandal so far, including Navy officers, a senior Navy investigator and Francis cousin.
Vice Adm. Ted Twig Branch, the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information and the Director of Naval Intelligence has been without a security clearance since November of 2013 after his name was mentioned in a far-ranging investigation into the infamous Fat Leonard bribery and corruption scandal. The Navy had nominated Rear Admiral Elizabeth Train to take over as head of Navy Intelligence, but the nomination was pulled two weeks ago.
Think about that; the head of Navy Intelligence doesnt even have a clearance!
More importantly, why would the Navy dither for over two years on the replacement for Branch?
Obviously, this crisis has been overlooked by Secretary of the Navy, Ray Mabus, who is too busy destroying the new Gender Neutral Marine Corps.
Adding to all these problems, the Navy has serious readiness issues. Three days ago, Republican Congressman Randy Forbes chaired a hearing Wednesday where he advocated for growing the size of the Navys fleet.
Forbes, the chairman of the House Armed Services Seapower and Projection Forces Subcommittee, heard testimony from former Navy Secretary John Lehman, on the Navys ship shortfalls and the need for a significantly larger fleet. Former Fleet Forces Commander Admiral Robert Natter will testify later.
Forbes released the following statement before the meeting:
When John Lehman stepped down as Secretary of the Navy in 1987 we had 594 ships. When ADM Natter retired from the Navy in 2003 we had 297 ships. Today we have a fleet of 272 ships that is too small to meet the demands being thrust upon it.
Poor leadership, gutless officers, unethical and traitorous officers, lousy morale, enlisted personnel who dont understand the Code of Conduct, readiness concerns, old equipment, fighting spirit issues; the US Navy has deep, serious problems that if allowed to continue will bring down this once proud and brave service.
The US Navy hasnt been in a direct fire engagement since 1988. While Naval Air assets played a vital role in the Gulf War, the Iraq War and in Afghanistan, the absence of actual naval combat has begun to take a toll on the Navy.
The US Navy has a peacetime attitude in a wartime world.
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Yep.
Obama playing war games in an attempt to boost establishment candidates.
Not that it would make a difference. Establishment got us in to this mess.
Isn't Poland a NATO ally? Could the Captain not have contacted the nearest Polish Airbase and requested the Polish Airforce fly top cover?
I suspect that the Poles did not chase these Russians away from our destroyer because they were not asked, not because they could not.
Norfolk hosting five carriers is like Pearl Harbor circa 1941
Glad I wasn’t the only one who thought that.
“The scariest part is what do you think the condition of our Nuclear arsenal?”
One hopes the vast majority of the weapons would function if needed. A lot of money is spent ensuring that’s the case - of course they are never actually tested these days...
Of more concern is the fact that the United States can’t currently produce new plutonium pits, which is the most critical piece of any nuclear weapon. Meanwhile, both Russia and China can, and both are busily fielding new nuclear delivery systems while the US sits idle and 0bama preaches about his “nuclear free world” fantasy.
Instead, the actual facts are that nuclear weapons are a critical part of the national defense, and in fact have been the strongest force for world peace in the history of mankind.
Much of what 0bama does seems to be sowing the seeds for the Four Horsemen a bit further down the road.
Allow me to second your suggestion of Archive.org—it is an excellent resource and time machine as well...
Big part of the problem right there.
We don’t have a CIC we have an azzhole who’s scared shxtless to anything about everything. There’s very “Leaders” in the military anymore either. They’re managers for a failed socially engineered experiment.
There’s still some damned good people left in the military but their ranks are shrinking very fast.
this is really not terrible...
I was in the navy under carter...
not only could we not maintain our aircraft, we could not even put fuel in them...
as for the flyby, hell the Russians not only did this all the time, they would sail their ships within a couple of hundred feet from the carrier. we used to moon the Russians and flip them off and they would do it right back to us!!!!
we survived carter and we will survive fubo...
You also assume that:
1. Communication existed between the USN ship and the Polish military.
2. The USN is allowed to ask the Poles for help.
3. The CIC wanted reinforcements to arrive.
There have been too many instances of US military humiliation recently and one wonders why these ships are placed in harm's way with no support in the air or at sea. Who is in charge and what are his aims?
“Chief of Naval Operations, but he cant hide the Navys incompetence and cowardice from the enemies of this nation.”............
Sir, you are an idiot if you believe our Navy is incompetent and cowards. The problem is that our military people have been hogtied by the Chief “incompetent and coward” of all time, odumbo. You turn our people loose and let them fight you will sing a totally different tune.
I think you have me confused with another poster.
Surprised that no one has mentioned the Navy brass’ overwhelming desire to have as many F-35’s as possible even though it means financially shorting every other area of operations.
“A fish rots from the head on down”
Yep! It was brought home to me a couple years ago. While on a job in mainland China a Chinese man walked up to me, stared in my face, asked if I was American. After I said yes he said “Obama weak man, Obama pussy!
5.56mm
I don’t understand why the destroyer did not turn on its close in weapons systems radars & scare the crap out of the Russian pilots. If the Russians can practice attacks on our war ships, then why don’t our war ships respond in a like manner, turning on defensive radars & readying SAMs on board.
This should ALWAYS be done when an unknown aircraft approaches our warships in a threatening, warlike manner. Our warships & crews are too valuable to assume a threat is not a threat until too late.
I would tell Russia that if they want to risk losing their aircraft, try this stunt again. We will post the video of their warplane & pilot being shredded by our CIWS on Obama’s Facebook account.
I wondered this also. Probably contrary to their ROE. Good strategy, send a lone warship without air cover into Russia's private lake, tell them they have to stand down no matter what happens and...see what happens. Sounds like something Obama and Kerry would do.
With all the security leaks the Russians probably know the USN's ROE in this circumstance before the orders are issued.
We are broke.
The US is a rust bucket. While this is partially Obama’s fault, there have been plenty of Republicans playing along.
Yet another part of Clown Prince nobama’s plan to “transform” America is working as planned. How nice, no? Thank LIBs/DIMs and their pals, the enabling GOP-e for this. Traitors all.
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