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Yes Donald, Colorado Did Vote…On March 1st
Conservative Review ^ | April 11, 2016 | Robert Eno

Posted on 04/12/2016 5:05:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

* From 1912 to 1988, and since 2004, Colorado used the current system for delegate selection, with no preference vote binding.
* Even in 1992, 1996, and 2004 delegates were bound by vote, but were free to vote conscience on second ballot.
* In 2012, Santorum won the non-binding straw poll but Romney received more delegates at conventions.
* A 2012 rules change at the RNC required any state that held a straw poll to bind their delegates, Colorado chose not to hold the straw poll, to enhance grass-roots participation.

If you’ve been on the internet this morning, you’ve seen the scathing headlines: “Republicans cancel presidential election in CO…” and “Fury as Colorado has no Primary or Caucus,” among others. The problem is that this is not exactly true. Colorado only briefly flirted with a binding primary, but even then the delegates were selected by a caucus-convention system. From 1912 – 1988, and 2004 to the present the delegates were not bound by a preferential vote. This year was no different.

In Colorado, a caucus is held to elect delegates to county assemblies and the county assemblies elect delegates to state and district assemblies where the delegates to the RNC are chosen. That is how it has worked over the past four presidential cycles, and it is nothing new for this year.

First, a little recent history. Conservative Review spoke to Florence Sebern, a member of the 2012 RNC Convention Rules Committee from Colorado. Sebern outlined how the Colorado Republican Party started holding non-binding straw polls to coincide with their caucuses in 2008. Sebern explained the process: “Prior to 2012 RNC rules changes, Colorado's presidential preference poll (instituted in 2008), did not bind delegates. Delegates could choose to pledge, via the National Delegate Notice of Intent form. A pledge bound delegates through the 1st round of voting.”

The New York Times description of the caucus system in Colorado in 2008 and 2012 confirms this account. In both instances they describe how the delegates are unbound from the results of the straw poll.

So why the change this year? According to Sebern, RNC rules instituted in 2012 said that any state that holds a preference poll in conjunction with their caucuses must bind delegates according to the results. The new rule was 16(a)(1):

Any statewide presidential preference vote that permits a choice among candidates for the Republican nomination for President of the United States in a primary, caucuses, or a state convention must be used to allocate and bind the state’s delegation to the national convention in either a proportional or winner-take-all manner, except for delegates and alternate delegates who appear on a ballot in a statewide election and are elected directly by primary voters.

“The caucus system was not fundamentally changed. What was changed was that a meaningless straw poll was not conducted — one that wouldn’t bind the delegates anyway.”

With the national rules change now governing, Sebern helped to lead the fight to end the short-lived presidential straw polls to keep the power of selecting delegates with the grassroots. Sebern wrote in an op-ed about the change:

Colorado’s caucus system is the way grassroots activists — We the People! — participate in and impact our political system.

Caucus is a meeting of neighbors, affiliated with a political party, who come together to discuss candidates, issues, ideas, elect leadership and delegates. It’s the basic building block of our Colorado political system. It’s an open door to local political activism. It’s an opportunity for all voices to be heard.

Caucus encourages one of the best aspects of politics: the opportunity to have a civil conversation with our neighbors who we may — or may not — agree with.

Caucus allows all voices to be heard and all concerns to be discussed.

In that same op-ed, Sebern explains that there were three short-lived primary cycles, and that the grassroots changed back to a caucus and saved the taxpayers money.

Colorado had a presidential primary in 1992, 1996, and 2000. We changed back to a caucus system and saved taxpayers $6 million dollars. Interestingly, voter participation declined during those primary years. Primaries may not be the only reason for a decline in voter participation (understanding the importance of civic engagement and quality candidates are certainly part of the “formula”), but they also don’t offer the neighborly experience that caucus does.

Donald Trump, and his media allies, have suggested that Colorado fundamentally changed their caucus system in the summer of 2015 to benefit Ted Cruz. In fact, the caucus system was not fundamentally changed. What was changed was that a meaningless straw poll was not conducted — one that wouldn’t bind the delegates anyway.

Even in 1992, 1996, and 2000 with the binding primary, delegates were selected by the caucus method. On a second ballot, at the national convention, those delegates could vote for whom they pleased.

Since the 2004 primary and caucus season — and from 1912 to 1988 before that — here is how the system worked: Republicans met in local precinct caucuses, which they did this year. People ran for delegate to the county assemblies (convention), often stating which presidential candidate they would support during the assemblies. The county assemblies picked delegates to district and state assemblies. Candidates running for national convention delegate could, optionally, bind themselves to a candidate or say what candidate they would support. The assemblies would elect the delegates.

In 2012, Rick Santorum won the non-binding presidential preference straw poll in Colorado. The result was: Santorum 40.3 percent, Mitt Romney 34.9 percent, Newt Gingrich 12.8 percent, and Ron Paul 11.8 percent. Romney ended up with more delegates, however; the delegate count was Romney 13, Santorum 6, and Paul 5.

The process described above is what happened this year. On March 1, thousands of Coloradans met at precinct caucuses. They elected delegates to the county assemblies. Those county assemblies sent delegates to state and district assemblies (conventions). There the delegates were selected. Exactly as they had been in 2004, 2008, and 2012.

Here’s how the chairman of the Colorado GOP explained it to Conservative Review, "The four step caucus process used this year was identical to the process employed in 2012 with the exception of the non-binding straw poll being eliminated," said Colorado GOP Chairman Steve House. "The process was open to all Colorado Republicans and all campaigns had ample opportunity to encourage their supporters to attend caucus, county assemblies, Congressional Assemblies, and the State Convention."

Donald Trump’s real fight is with the people way back in 2002 that fought to get rid of the binding primary, not Ted Cruz.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: cruz; delegates; tedcruz; trump; yellowjournalism
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1 posted on 04/12/2016 5:05:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh for crying out loud.

You are full of baloney. You are becoming a troll, and really need to look at this website, your history here, and stop trolling so blatantly for Cruz.

Trolling.


2 posted on 04/12/2016 5:09:37 PM PDT by cba123 (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good post.


3 posted on 04/12/2016 5:09:41 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Keep telling yourselves that.


4 posted on 04/12/2016 5:09:45 PM PDT by McGruff (Cheatin' Ted)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes some did vote but independents and others are left out. If you have the magic decoder ring you may vote in the primary but if you don't bow three times toward Washington DC you can not vote. You can not vote unless you are a registered demoRat or rePUBlican.
5 posted on 04/12/2016 5:10:48 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: cba123

Now refute the article.


6 posted on 04/12/2016 5:10:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Facts? The Trumpanzees are gonna throw poo at you for trying to besmirch their Savior "The Donald" and his Infinite BrillianceTM.
7 posted on 04/12/2016 5:12:42 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you for posting this article.

The footer says it was written by: “Robert Eno is the Director of Research for Conservative Review and also is a Contributor. He is a conservative from deep blue Massachusetts but now lives in Greenville, SC. He is also a fill in radio host and appears on television. Follow him @robeno and feel free to email him at reno@conservativereview.com. “


9 posted on 04/12/2016 5:13:58 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10 posted on 04/12/2016 5:15:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep I love all these articles and Limbaugh today explaining that canceling a “meaningless vote” is just nothing.

This article is exactly the bs you will hear if you ever try to attend one of your town council meetings and ask a few questions about anything.

They’ve got it all under control, you and your issue are not on their very carefully prepared list, it’s always been done this way, yada yada yada.


11 posted on 04/12/2016 5:15:23 PM PDT by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: mountainlion

No, ‘independents’ are not ‘left out’ - they can vote in their parties primary.

Or they can join a party, if they do it in time, and vote with that political party.


12 posted on 04/12/2016 5:16:10 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: mountainlion

No, ‘independents’ are not ‘left out’ - they can vote in their parties primary.

Or they can join a party, if they do it in time, and vote with that political party.


13 posted on 04/12/2016 5:16:17 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s being ignored is the video made by the Colorado delegate who was dropped and barred from voting because he was going to view for Trump. He was replaced by a Cruz delegate. THAT’S the corruption, and that’s not “in the rules,” either.

It’s also what the Cruzbots ignore.


14 posted on 04/12/2016 5:16:23 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will not. You are becoming a troll.

All you do it post anti-Trump nonsense.

If you want to start having people pay attention to what you post, then stop trolling.

Do you know how many (former) Cruz people there are now on this site? Cruz is pissing off his supporters, Trump supporters, and the party itself.

You need to realize that Cruz will not be the nominee.

He just won’t be. If you succeed in foisting him upon the GOP (which won’t happen, it will be some other person like Ryan or Bush) the GOP will LOSE.

Trump is the only GOP candidate who is a true winner.

Climb down, and stop trolling for Cruz.


15 posted on 04/12/2016 5:16:25 PM PDT by cba123 (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: cba123

2ndDivisionVet is a very respected member of FR. Please calm down.


16 posted on 04/12/2016 5:18:07 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: cba123
Always post this when you see an article from the CONservative e- Spew:

The Yellow Kid points the way to yellow journalism...

17 posted on 04/12/2016 5:18:31 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: Talisker

This guy?

Colorado Trump delegate who burned his party registration: I may have missed a meeting
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3420281/posts


18 posted on 04/12/2016 5:18:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: Fledermaus

I’ve been a FReeper since 2005.

But what if I hadn’t been? Does that make it better for you?

Cruz is becoming the big problem in this race. He is not a people person, he is manipulating things bigtime, and his dwindling list of supporters here are frankly becoming rather negative.


19 posted on 04/12/2016 5:19:00 PM PDT by cba123 (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: lulu16; cba123

He orders the Fool-aid by the barrelful.


20 posted on 04/12/2016 5:19:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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