Posted on 02/10/2016 6:32:24 AM PST by smoothsailing
Spoken like a true believer! 8^)
NH is proportional.
Trump garnered 10, Kasich 3, Cruz came away with 2 and Bush 2.
I cannot believe Americans can even entertain the notion that "anchor" babies are eligible become the President of the United States upon obtaining the age of 35, which is what your interpretation opens us up to. The term "natural born" was included for a reason, otherwise, they would have just said citizen and been done with it.
Rubio has to get the nomination first. Bush and Rubio are unabashed amnesty supporters. If the GOP nominates either one of them, the party is finished along with the country.
You mean the debate? What does his Majesty the Emperor-Elect have to say about it?
MN and ND will vote for the conservative, like they did last time.
“rules of naturalization” means not only who is eligible to be naturalized but also includes:
- the process by which such naturalization must take place
- who is not or never can be naturalized
- those who do not need to be naturalized by the circumstances of their birth
- any and all rules
Cruz was a citizen at birth (jus soils) of Canada. He was a dual national until 20 months ago when he renounced his Canadian citizenship.
There is no doubt that Cruz is a US citizen. The question is whether he is a natural born citizen as it pertains to eligibility to be President under the Constitution. It is not settled law. It needs to be litigated.
You were correct on most of what you stated, but Cruz is not a naturalized citizen. US Code provides for two methods of citizenship, by birth and naturalization. Cruz obtained derivative citizenship (jus sanguinis) thru his mother. This is considered by birth, since Cruz did not go thru the naturalization process, which is distinctly different than derivative citizenship both in process and substance.
However, the issue of NBC is an open question and needs to be resolved thru the courts. It is not settled law.
This is Ted's situation.
This is Ted's situation.
title 8 section 1401 Citizen at birth - subsection G qualifies Sen Cruz as a natural born citizen.
Jeb will have to go guns a blazing against Rubio in the debate. That should be the final nail for Rubio if he finishes 3rd or 4th.
Trump, Cruz and Bush move on. The GOPe want only one est. candidate and it will now be Bush. At that point the odds switch, instead of many establishment candidates beating themselves up there will be only one which sets the stage for Cruz and Trump destroying each other to let Jeb! in.
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock
A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.
I am a retired FSO who held a consular commission. I also had a child born abroad while being posted at an Embassy. The applicable FAM reference is 7 FAM 1131.6-3 Not Citizens by “Naturalizationâ€
Section 101(a)(23) INA (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(23)) provides that the term "naturalization" means "the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth, by any means whatsoever." Persons who acquire U.S. citizenship at birth by birth abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents who meet the applicable statutory transmission requirements are not considered citizens by naturalization.
They are citizens by statue thru derivative citizenship.
MN and ND
Kasich could go for 2nd place.
CRuz wins TEX ...
this is likely to be a dull primary season for the GOP.
Bush Rubio Kasich lack to personality to propel themselves to the front.
And the party regulars will go with Trump over Cruz. The local GOP insiders aren’t particularly negative on the Trumpet.
YEas, CBS decided it is time for Christie to drop out.
“title 8 section 1401 Citizen at birth - subsection G qualifies Sen Cruz as a natural born citizen.”
These efforts to use “title 8 section 1401” from the the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act as a means of claiming it MAKES, meaning it naturalizes, a child as natural born citizen is about as illiterate, ignorant, and stupid as it can possibly get. Note for the persistently ignorant. YOU CANNOT NATURALIZE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY A CITIZEN AND ARE NOT ALIEN BORN! Duh!!! Naturalization laws are used to take a person who was born in a foreign jurisdiction, with or without alien citizenship (they can be born stateless) and with or without citizen parents, and MAKES the child by the authority of statutory law of naturalization a person entitled to be CONSIDERED AS if they were an actual citizen or natural born citizen despite not actually being one. Also, it makes absolutely no difference what label is used to describe the naturalized person, alien born or considered as a natural born subject, the person is still naturalized if a statutory law is used to authorize the acquisition and retention of citizenship for the child. Anyone attempting to use a naturalization law like Title 8 to claim a child is a natural born citizen deserves to be laughed off the face of the planet as an irrational Dummy. There is no reason to have any patience with this obvious kind of irrational contradictions in terms.
After all, you were in service to your country at the time, whereas that does not hold true for Ted.
Furthermore, Ted's father was either a citizen or had applied for Canadian citizenship before Ted's birth. In addition, his mother was listed on the Canadian voter registration rolls as an eligible voter, which begs the question as to whether she also took on Canadian citizenship.
What is illiterate, ignorant, and stupid is the intentional and willful disregard of Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution specifically enumerating Congress with the exclusive authority to establish all rules for naturalization, INCLUDING who does not need to be naturalized and is a citizen from birth, i.e. natural born citizen.
I was not referring to my circumstances, just my professional and personal experience with the issue.
Ted is a US citizen, by birth, not naturalization. The issue is whether he is a NBC or not. It needs to be resolved by the courts.
Just a little over the top I would say. Blessings. The country is stronger than you think.
The reason I asked about circumstances was because you said your child was a natural born citizen and not a naturalized citizen, while stating your child was born overseas. There is of course a difference between the naturalized citizens at birth, and natural born citizens.
Just as "anchor" babies are citizens at birth, they are not natural born citizens. Some here seem to think they also qualify as citizens who when they obtain the age of 35 are eligible to become the President.
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