http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm
Posted on 01/27/2016 7:42:47 AM PST by ConservingFreedom
In 2012, Mitt Romney ran on a solidly conservative platform and rhetoric, just as Trump is doing now. Yet most (IMO) FReepers agreed with Jim Robinson in vigorously opposing Romney during the primaries and supporting him, if at all, only with nose firmly held in the general election. Why? Because Romney had a record, and it was on far too many matters a liberal record. Well, Trump's many liberal public statements are at least as fresh as Romney's were ... and in some cases are ongoing (cf. "Donald Trump a Typical New York City Liberal Then and Now" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3385906/posts).
How is Trump.2016 any more conservative than Romney.2012?
(NOTE: Replies about Cruz, Reagan, or anyone other than Trump and/or Romney will be implicit admissions that Trump.2016 is no more conservative than was Romney.2012.)
http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm
Romney is/was a weak-kneed spineless baby. American men are not known for these qualities. Romney will have nothing longer than a one sentence footnote in American history. Trump will have a whole chapter. A book probably.
That’s why.
Romney had romneycare like an albatross around his neck. Also, did not fight for the job. Trump has said what needs to be said against the establishment, both dem and repub. I’m for Cruz because when in office, I think Trump is not a principled conservative and will go back on his word on a lot of issue (but I’m glad Trump is in it and saying what needs to be said).
Trump is more conservative because Trump is willing to fight the media cartel that has taken control of the country.
Romney was not. A candidate who will fight the enemy is far better and more likely to accomplish some of Conservative’s goals than one who will not even acknowledge that there is an enemy.
That is the difference.
Trump is MUCH less conservative than Romney. And Romney is not particularly conservative.
The “R” under “Voter Type” means “Regular Voter,” not “Republican.”
So after Trump registered as a Republican in 1989, he spent the next 20+ years donating to Democrats.
4/7/10 $1,000 Schumer, Charles E (D); 2/18/10 $2,000 Weiner, Anthony D (D); 12/11/09 $1,600 Schumer, Charles E (D); 12/11/09 $400 Schumer; $2,400 Crist, Charlie (3); 10/16/09 $2,400 Crist, Charlie (3); 8/18/09 $1,000 Maloney, Carolyn B (D); 8/11/09 $2,000 Nelson, Bill (D); 5/20/09 $2,000 Schumer, Charles E (D); 3/26/09 $2,400 Reid, Harry (D); 4/30/08 $6,900 Andrews, Robert E (D); 3/31/08 $1,300 Specter, Arlen (R); 3/28/08 $5,000 Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte (D); 1/31/08 $25,000 Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte (D); 12/31/07 $1,050 Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte (D); 12/15/07 $1,000 Maffei, Dan (D); 12/11/07 $1,050 Gillibrand, Kirsten (D); 11/12/07 $600 Clinton, Hillary (D); 10/15/07 $1,000 Specter, Arlen (R); 9/24/07 $2,300 Weiner, Anthony D (D); 9/5/07 $1,000 Rocque, Michael R (R); 8/27/07 $2,300 Rangel, Charles B (D); 8/27/07 $2,300 Rangel, Charles B (D); 5/2/07 $1,000 Menendez, Robert (D); 5/2/07 $1,000 Durbin, Dick (D); 3/31/07 $1,700 Clinton, Hillary (D); 3/31/07 $2,300 Clinton, Hillary (D); 11/1/06 $200 Clinton, Hillary (D); 11/1/06 $2,100 Clinton, Hillary (D); 9/26/06 $7,500 Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte (D); 9/12/06 $1,000 Maloney, Carolyn B (D); 6/19/06 $15,000 Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte (D); 6/19/06 $20,000 Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte (D); 5/31/06 $1,000 Menendez, Robert (D); 3/1/06 $2,100 Rangel, Charles B (D); 3/1/06 $1,900 Rangel, Charles B (D); 3/1/06 $5,000 National Leadership PAC (D); 12/15/05 $1,000 Ford, Harold E Jr (D); 12/2/05 $1,000 Clinton, Hillary (D); 9/30/05 $900 Clinton, Hillary (D); 8/31/05 $1,000; Lieberman, Joe (I); 8/17/05 $1,000 National Leadership PAC (D); 6/16/05 $500 Kennedy, Patrick J (D); 4/13/05 $2,000 Lautenberg, Frank (D); 4/13/05 $5,000 New Jersey First (D); 4/13/05 $1,000 Lautenberg, Frank (D); 4/13/05 $2,000 Lautenberg, Frank (D); 4/6/05 $5,000 Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte (D); 3/28/05 $1,000 Berkley, Shelley (D); 3/23/05 $1,000 Clinton, Hillary (D); 9/28/04 $25,000 Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte (D); 1/7/04 $1,000 Schumer, Charles E (D); 12/26/03 $2,000 Daschle, Tom (D); 12/26/03 $2,000 Daschle, Tom (D); 12/19/03 $1,000 Kennedy, Edward M (D); 10/28/03 $1,000 Dodd, Chris (D); 9/30/03 $2,000 Rangel, Charles B (D); 9/30/03 $500 Rangel, Charles B (D); 9/16/03 $500 Specter, Arlen (R); 6/24/03 $2,000 Kerry, John (D); 6/2/03 $1,000 Kennedy, Patrick J (D); 3/21/03 $2,000 Reid, Harry (D); 3/21/03 $2,000 Reid, Harry (D); 10/28/02 $1,000 Gephardt, Richard A (D); 10/25/02 $1,000 National Leadership PAC (D); 10/8/02 $25,000 DSCC/Non-Federal Unicorp Assoc (D); 10/4/02 $1,000 Parker, Susan D (D); 9/5/02 $1,000 Dodd, Chris (D); 8/19/02 $1,000 Shriver, Mark Kennedy (D); 8/7/02 $1,000 New Jersey United (D); 5/2/02 $1,000 Rangel, Charles B (D); 5/1/02 $1,000 Clinton, Hillary (D); 12/31/01 $1,000 Biden, Joseph R Jr (D); 12/28/01 $1,000 Hollings, Fritz (D); 12/17/01 $1,000 Bowles, Erskine B (D); 8/31/01 $1,000 Dodd, Chris (D); 6/29/01 $1,000 Rangel, Charles B (D); 6/2/01 $1,000 Kennedy, Patrick J (D); 3/28/01 $1,000 Baucus, Max (D); 12/15/00 $500 Kerry, John (D); 11/13/00 $5,000 DSCC/Non-Federal Individual (D); 11/6/00 $5,000 DCCC/Non-Federal Account 5 (D); 6/7/00 $1,000 Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte (D); 5/23/00 $750 Schumer, Charles E (D).
So no differences related to platform or record. Got it - thanks!
Donald Trump is going to destroy the GOPe-led Republican Party!
Romney was the GOPe’s sacrificial lamb to keep True Conservatives from obtaining power in the Republican Party.
He isn’t.
On the other hand, he has immensely better political abilities than Romney. Otherwise we wouldn’t still be talking about him. Your best leader must be able to lead, otherwise he is useless even if he is an exemplar of purity and virtue.
Oh, Romney did fight for something, to make sure a conservative was not the GOP nominee, he fought like Hell against the other Republicans.
The difference between Donald Trump and Milt Romley is that Milt Romley is far too much of a gentleman to have strongly held principles that he is willing to fight for.
I’m for Trump and I’ll admit he’s not more conservative than Romney. On the other hand he is more likely to get conservative and right-of-center policies implemented than Romney was then and any other candidate is now - because I can see him getting elected.
I’d prefer Cruz’s policies, but if he is elected I don’t see him getting much done - both Rs and Ds will fight him. I don’t see him negotiating anything better then Trump will. Trump will likely give more on left policies that he doesn’t consider a priority to get more than Cruz on issues he does consider a priority. I think his priorities match mine.
I may end up wrong but I think he will get a lot done that I like on
* immigration (illegal, H1B, etc),
* trade/economy,
* taxes (and regulations, US manufacturing, jobs, etc)
* Iran/Iraq/Syria/etc.
* Military
* Gun rights
* Debt (and possibly SS solvency)
* Religious rights
All of these need cooperation/negotiation with Congress (I don’t like EO’s from either party). And that means some concessions to liberals (reality is that the country is heavily divided). I’m happy with what I think Trump’s priorities are and with what I think about Trump’s abilities to get the most with the least concessions. I don’t think he’ll deport 11 million illegals or put a huge tariff on China. But I do like those as opening proposals for negotiating with Congress for a compromise. I don’t think he’ll try to stop gay marriage. But I do think he will try to restore religious rights to not participate in gay marriages (as well as prayer and religious symbols in public and other restoration of right to religion).
I think Trump values individual and states’ rights more than any D and many Rs. His court appointments won’t be as good as Cruz’s but I think he will do a good job on this and I’m not sure Cruz could get his preferred judges past the Rs, much less the Ds in congress. (yes, I’m aware of Trump and Kelo/eminent domain)
Trump is more conservative because he shook hands with Reagan?
"Republican" is not always "conservative".
Donald Trump is going to destroy the GOPe-led Republican Party!
Romney was the GOPe’s sacrificial lamb to keep True Conservatives from obtaining power in the Republican Party.
Nonresponsive.
So no differences related to platform or record. Got it - thanks!
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