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The Cost of Drugs in America
1/24/2016 | John Guinivere

Posted on 01/24/2016 11:09:18 AM PST by big bad easter bunny

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To: big bad easter bunny
I am currently reading Chasing The Scream which is very illuminating on this topic.
21 posted on 01/24/2016 1:46:57 PM PST by SC DOC
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

“That simple thing is lacking in the people who are contributing to this problem”

You are correct. Unfortunately, what is simple, is not easy, for some folks. Thanks.


22 posted on 01/24/2016 2:05:16 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: iowamark

They’re not poor, they’re spending their money unwisely.


23 posted on 01/24/2016 3:22:32 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: big bad easter bunny

Maybe the recreational drug warriors should save their brains and country by stopping the support and death with their drug cartel Partners.


24 posted on 01/24/2016 3:27:05 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: big bad easter bunny

All I could think of while reading this is it is amazing how many drug busts are made because of a broken tail light.

You don’t need to be rich to replace a tail light and drive properly to avoid getti g pulled over when you have your illegal drugs in the car.


25 posted on 01/24/2016 4:08:38 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: A CA Guy
Maybe the recreational drug warriors should save their brains and country by stopping the support and death with their drug cartel Partners.

If anyone is a drug cartel partner, it's those who support the anti-drug laws that give the cartels an oligopoly on the market.

26 posted on 01/24/2016 4:46:52 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: goldstategop
We can’t jail our way of drug/substance addiction

Sure we can.

Close the border. Lash the users. Hang the dealers.

27 posted on 01/24/2016 4:51:29 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at all.)
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To: big bad easter bunny

As a society I hope we have had the best intentions with all these laws we have passed,

First Mistake, it is NOT ABOUT DRUGS, and it NEVER WAS. It is about Power and Control, and Money. If it were about drugs, the WALL would have been built a Long Time Ago.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/vlr/vlrtoc.htm


28 posted on 01/24/2016 4:51:55 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: big bad easter bunny
Let them get good paying jobs, take care of their families

Don't get out much, huh?

29 posted on 01/24/2016 4:54:01 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at all.)
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To: Jim Noble
Close the border.

Many drugs are domestically produced.

Lash the users.

The Eighth Amendment prohibits this.

Hang the dealers.

Dealers already kill each other more expeditiously than our presumption-of-innocence trial system could ever do - yet there is no shortage of dealers, and when one is killed (or arrested) another springs up to take his place.

30 posted on 01/24/2016 4:59:49 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: big bad easter bunny

The best way of taking care of the drug problem is to take care of the cause of it. Drug addiction is a symptom of problems in people’s lives.

The cause of it is emotional pain people are trying to numb and escape from, and that’s from abuse, divorce, whatever family problems a person grows up with.

Addictive behavior of any kind, be it drugs or alcohol or porn, is an attempt to deal the wrong way with pain in their lives.

Of course, once you’re physically addicted, that’s a different story, but still, getting to the root of the problem solves the symptom, which is drug abuse.

Christ is the answer for the problem. I have a friend who is a very committed Christian who in his past life did drugs and dealt drugs. I asked him once how he was able to stop and his answer was that once he accepted Christ, he just lost the desire to do drugs. And before that, he was addicted.


31 posted on 01/24/2016 6:11:06 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: big bad easter bunny

I am two weeks short of 22 years sober. In that time I have seen thousands of drug and alcoholic addicts pass through “recovery” and “treatment.”

Where is the proof that offenders even want recovery or treatment? And absent punishment, what gets them

a) motivated for treatment, and

b) into treatment, and

c) successfully through treatment and remaining sober?


32 posted on 01/24/2016 6:50:07 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: ConservingFreedom

The recreational drug users made the narcos and death they caused.


33 posted on 01/24/2016 7:06:54 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Marie

Very good post and spot on. The governments’ war on drugs is absolutely irrational and draconian.


34 posted on 01/25/2016 1:02:09 AM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Alabama Crimson Tide: 2015 National Champions. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: goldstategop

It’s about the money aside from the obvious stuff like meth labs or H

Drug enforcement is huge govt business for the cops and the jurisdictions and prisons and prison builders and prosecutors careers

And no it sure hasn’t worked

Whatever work means

Meanwhile the most destructive drug we use like crazy continues to sell like hot cakes in liquor stores and groceries nationwide and we know exactly the destructive cost of it yet it’s celebrated

I’m almost 60....in a battle of bad things I’ll take a nation of potheads over a nation of drunks anyday

And I use neither

My drug walks on two legs and has ovaries


35 posted on 01/25/2016 1:14:06 AM PST by wardaddy (Trump or Cruz.......its win win folks......so take a John Riggins pill .......lie on the carpet)
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To: wardaddy

The big business aspect of the “war on drugs” can’t be ignored; now it seems to be butting heads with a spreading philosophy that wants blacks exempted from laws (the soft bigotry of lowered expectations).


36 posted on 01/25/2016 6:33:52 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: A CA Guy
The recreational drug users and the laws banning recreational drugs made the narcos and death they caused.

Completed it. It takes both demand and restricting supply to criminal hands to make well-armed and violence-motivated narcos. Experience shows government can't eliminate demand; the realistic answer is to eliminate the laws that restrict supply to criminal hands.

37 posted on 01/25/2016 10:11:15 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

RESTRICTED ACCESS TO DRUGS CAUSES ADDICTED PEOPLE TO HAVE TO USE, THEREFORE BEING THEY CANT KILL THEMSELVES LEGALLY THEY SUPPORT EL CHAPO? GLORIOUS, WE HAVE NOW PRIDE OF THE ADDICTION WARRIORS.😀


38 posted on 01/25/2016 3:41:58 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
It takes both demand and restricting supply to criminal hands to make well-armed and violence-motivated narcos.

RESTRICTED ACCESS TO DRUGS CAUSES ADDICTED PEOPLE TO HAVE TO USE

Neither I nor anyone else on this thread has made that claim; reread for comprehension. And please STOP SHOUTING.

39 posted on 01/26/2016 7:14:53 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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