Posted on 11/09/2015 5:35:02 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
It sure isn’t working out for those pinheads that spent 12 years getting a Master’s Degree in “Saving da Planet”.
No sir!
Bring back the draft. After service you can go to college.
And not until you serve. PERIOD.
Go into 200k of debt because you know how to memorize a textbook better than someone else.
ANY PARENT that finances their kid to go to college to pursue “their dreams” in philosophy or to “find himself” DESERVES to be DESTITUTE in retirement.
The days when a person could go to college and NOT clean out themselves and/or their parents are LONG GONE. The only question now is whether your kid gets a piece of paper that has any more value than a plumber...because, at this point, very few degrees meet that standard.
I heartily agree. Those who try hard get the good MOS’s, those who don’t get KP and latrine duty!
Maybe they should first learn how to make change, use a ruler, say “Please” and “Thank you”, respect their elders, have a work ethic, etc.
/old fogey mode.
Just stumblin' over that, are we?
You’re not talking about a draft you’re talking about universal mandatory conscription. Which this country has never had.
There are plenty of kids at the community college I am now attending who literally can not find 1.5 inches on a ruler. That's the truth. I have personally witnessed this. Many **will** go on to earn AA and then B.A. degrees. There are plenty of baristas with college degrees who can not read a ruler or an analog clock and don't know who the Vice President is.
It was the intelligence/vocational testing that determined which ratings you were qualified for when I joined the Navy. Any hard work you did had to have been done before you enlisted. After that your advancement was constrained by the need in your field first, then you performance on tests.
Some of the best math I've eveer seen was done on scrap paper in a machine shop, by a guy who barely spoke English or acceptable Spanish, merely so he could actually do what the red lines called for. Contemporary with that I worked with Engineers who's answer to "why" was because that's what the program says.
Nearly the most depressing sight I encountered in GI Bill education was watching as the demo slip stick behind instructor's desk was replaced with a demo hand calculator. (see above; because that's what the program says)
The problem isn't limited to 'kids'. I watched over a decade of adult employees bagging a Phoenix or Fly by Night BA degree while employed so that they could demand a raise and promotion upon completion...
Spoiler; I have a legitimate BA in a very unmarketable specialty and an after hours MSA in "management", which taken together allowed me to continue working but which I never thought should guarantee me any sort of status, that you need to learn to do for yourself.
For a better education, I suggest 4 years in the Navy and a set of Great Books.
Duhh! Do ya think? Just look how well it's working out for the future rocket scientist attending the "State Run", "University" tee hee, in Missouri. As a parent, save yourself the money. Lobotomies are much faster and cheaper. Same result.
Actually, no! I’ve been batting around these thoughts for quite some time now. I just thought the incident at Yale made it a good launching pad for a post about it.
Plumbers have a lot of value and have to study for loads of certificates.
I agree.
I’ve done PLENTY OF PLUMBING and have incredible respect for them. One of the most taxing things I did was trying to lay out drain pipe (below grade) while meeting the 0.25” per foot slope and making bends to line up with rough-ins. Looks EASY after it’s done, but I was TOTALLY DRAINED (no pun intended), mentally, after that...and that was an EASY JOB. Try doing the same when you’re dealing with 2x10 floor joists and can’t dip below the ceiling level below. The people that built my house had the pleasure of doing that...which is why I NEVER, EVER, call illegals dumb or unskilled. Until I can hold a candle to their work, I will always respect them...but they still need to leave.
So maybe you have a point. It’s likely a LOT EASIER and certainly MORE FUN for a 20-something to eat up mom’s and dad’s retirement to become a Shakespeare Sonnet ‘expert’ than to learn how to lay drain pipe or sweat copper.
But then that’s why I tell parents to tell their kids to SHOVE IT if they insist in getting a worthless degree.
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