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1 posted on 10/16/2015 9:26:34 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

Why aren’t Saudi Arabia and Qatar leveled yet?

is the 10s of billions at the LEAST they have given to terrorists not enough?

19 of them were on the 9/11 planes so we promptly attacked Iraq.

It disgusts me.


2 posted on 10/16/2015 9:30:55 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: 4rcane

There are no moderate muslims.


3 posted on 10/16/2015 9:31:38 PM PDT by umgud (v)
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To: 4rcane

If you want to know just how moderate the Free Syrian army is please take the time to read this

http://shoebat.com/2014/03/17/actual-literal-islamic-human-slaughterhouses-christians-discovered/

They ran/ are running slaughter houses in Syria that make Hitler look tame (cannibalism)


5 posted on 10/16/2015 10:41:38 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: 4rcane

True, all the same, Assad is an Al Qaeda collaborator as well and his Shabiha is right out of the 3rd Reich. Russia can feel free to collaborate with the creator of the problems in Syria and who, as a heritage spokesman put it, is the biggest mass murderer of the century.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-14482968

This article talks about AL Nusra who has made ground against Assad:

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/obama-won-t-admit-real-targets-russian-airstrikes-386489294


6 posted on 10/16/2015 11:51:35 PM PDT by BeadCounter (,)
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To: 4rcane
From Aug 23, 2015:

"a recent investigation conducted by Novaya Gazeta, one of the few independent newspapers left in Russia, complicates this cozy tale of counterterrorist cooperation. Based on extensive fieldwork in one village in the North Caucasus, reporter Elena Milashina has concluded that the “Russian special services have controlled” the flow of jihadists into Syria, where they have lately joined up not only with ISIS but other radical Islamist factions.

In other words, Russian officials are adding to the ranks of terrorists which the Russian government has deemed a collective threat to the security and longevity of its dictatorial ally on the Mediterranean, Bashar al-Assad."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/russia-s-playing-a-double-game-with-islamic-terror0.html
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Understanding Provocation [Provokatsiya]

March 29, 2014

One of the most powerful tools the Kremlin has in its secret arsenal of Special War is provocation, what they call provokatsiya.

While Moscow cannot claim to have invented this technique, which has existed as long as there have been secret services, there’s no doubt that Russians have perfected the art and taken it to a whole new level of sophistication and deviousness. At times, it can become a strategy all on its own (not always, mind you, with edifying results).

Provokatsiya simply means taking control of your enemies in secret and encouraging them to do things that discredit them and help you. You plant your own agents provocateurs and flip legitimate activists [in this case, dupe actual Jihadis -ETL], turning them to your side.

When you’re dealing with extremists to start with, getting them to do crazy, self-defeating things isn’t often difficult. In some cases, you simply create extremists and terrorists where they don’t exist. This is causing problems in order to solve them, and since the Tsarist period, Russian intelligence has been known to do just that.

While this isn’t a particularly nice technique, it works surprisingly well, particularly if you don’t care about bloody and messy consequences. ..."

http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/
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In other words, it's like starting a fire, or pouring gasoline on a fire, in order to be the 'big hero', being first on the scene to put it out. Except in this case, you get to grab control over the buildings and town you helped 'saved' from the fire you helped to start.

7 posted on 10/17/2015 12:27:06 AM PDT by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: 4rcane
Biden says there was no moderate middle...blames Turkey and allies
12 posted on 10/17/2015 5:43:23 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: 4rcane

Say I’m a reasonably well educated Syrian “would-be” moderate, possibly a Sunni deserter from Assad’s Army.

Options are:

1.) Stay and fight for the outside chance me and my moderate friends might prevail and inherit a thoroughly distoryed country where terrorism will be an ongoing occurance for the next decade.

2.) take what’s left of my family and walk to Germany.

I’ll take 2.


15 posted on 10/17/2015 10:02:19 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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