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Disarming America, the Final Solution?
Coach is Right ^ | 8/27/15 | John C. Velisek USN (Ret.)

Posted on 08/27/2015 6:16:46 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

A new report touted by NBC News’ Maggie Fox makes the claim that the level of firearm ownership can be correlated with homicide deaths of Law Enforcement Officers. More civilian gun ownership in a given area, more dead police. Study authors David Sewedler and David Hemenway would later admit that perhaps this homicide rate was actually driven by criminals. The “criminal offender theory” draws the not-so-remarkable conclusion that police who have frequent encounters with violent criminals are more likely to be injured or killed. Not all that surprising a proposition, is it?

Of course, gun hating members of the media aren’t interested in the legitimacy of a study, but in the claims of its authors. In this case, more police are killed in states which have more of those evil guns. It’s short, sounds reasonable and is easy to pass off as fact. What could be better!

But why has the media decided to pick yet another nationally syndicated fight with gun owners?

On September 25th of last year, Secretary of State John Kerry-acting on behalf of the president-signed the UN’s Global Arms Trade Treaty. Though it has not been ratified by the Senate, Obama’s minions traveled to the UN Treaty conference in Mexico on Monday, August 24th.

It’s quite clear that the purpose of the Treaty is to disarm civilian populations—that is, people deemed unauthorized by government officials to possess firearms or ammunition. But the federal government and individual states have attempted to disarm the American people before. Connecticut and New York recently passed legislation requiring owners of “assault weapons” and “large capacity” magazines to register these items with the state. It has been widely reported that more than 1 million “assault weapon” owners in the two states have publicly defied the legislation and...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: armstradetreaty; banglist; brackobama; guncontrol; johnkerry
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1 posted on 08/27/2015 6:16:46 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax
Gun ownership should mean less need for cops. The crime rate in Detroit is falling dramatically as they have more gun owners and fewer cops.

(video) Detroit police chief encourages residents to pack heat
2 posted on 08/27/2015 6:23:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Civil War Part II


3 posted on 08/27/2015 6:29:26 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Pretty sure police are injured at a far higher rate by their miffed mistresses than by firearms.

Most firearm deaths of police are either accidents or suicide.

The greatest cause of death for a policeman is traffic accidents wherein the policeman is at fault.

Police kill far more innocent civilians than are police killed by criminals.


4 posted on 08/27/2015 6:35:40 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (The economic collapse is imminent. Buy staple food and OTC meds now, before prices skyrocket.)
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To: 2banana

Civil War Part II

Indeed.

Make sure addresses of ALL progressives are well known, and guard the airports.

Build guillotines, because only the best should be used on the vermin who fosted this mess upon us.


5 posted on 08/27/2015 6:40:31 AM PDT by Da Coyote (Di)
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To: Oldpuppymax

“Civilian” gun ownership? The police are civilians, too.

Also, this “study” is a load of crap.

I live in Maine, with a population of about 1.2 million people, and the per-capita rate of gun ownership by citizens is through the roof in this state. Constitutional Carry goes into effect in October....Maine citizens will be able to carry a firearm on their person or in their vehicles without a permit.

I’ve been here for 23 years and I can’t recall a police officer being shot and killed in the line of duty.

If this bogus “study” was true, cops would be killed often in Maine, but they are not.


6 posted on 08/27/2015 6:41:34 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Liberals are like the Taliban and ISIS....destroying cultural icons they don't like.)
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Lots of guns here in WEST Virginia.

Not so much crime. Even the ‘Rats have to pretend to be pro-gun. Sort of. D-bag governor vetoed Constitutional Carry. I expect the next election to go poorly for him.


7 posted on 08/27/2015 6:45:03 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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Study authors David Sewedler and David Hemenway would later admit that perhaps this homicide rate was actually driven by criminals.

YOU DON'T SAY!

8 posted on 08/27/2015 6:48:18 AM PDT by Old Sarge (I prep because DHS and FEMA told me it was a good idea...)
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More civilian gun ownership in a given area, more dead police...

Are Gang Bangers obtaining guns that they OWN legally? I think not!

Notice how they leave out the difference between Legal and Illegal gun ownership!


9 posted on 08/27/2015 7:03:23 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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Here's how to stop gun deaths in the U.S.:

America needs GUN CONTROL FOR DEMOCRATS!


10 posted on 08/27/2015 7:03:42 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Old Sarge
Study authors David Sewedler and David Hemenway would later admit that perhaps this homicide rate was actually driven by criminals. Criminals. Democrats. What's the difference?
11 posted on 08/27/2015 7:06:09 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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More civilian gun ownership in a given area, more dead police

Looking at the stats out of Detroit, the last officer killed by a suspect was in 2011 and he was hit by a car driven by a suspect. The last Detroit cop killed in a shooting was in 2010.

At the same time, gun ownership in Detroit has skyrocketed.
12 posted on 08/27/2015 7:17:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

So here’s the deal: I would rather die with a pile of spent cartridge cases at my feet than submit to what these genocidal monsters have in mind.


13 posted on 08/27/2015 7:38:34 AM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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This is the foundation for a multi-generational fight to disarm law-abiding Americans.

Today we’d assert that “nobody will take my weapons”, or ask “who would participate in the U.N. Army to disarm us?”.

But, what about 30 to 40 years from now?

We’ve already seen restrictions on transfer, sales, and inheritance of weapons, in certain states.

While compliance may be limited today, that will not sustain itself over time.


14 posted on 08/27/2015 7:41:46 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama is replicating the instruments of the fall of Rome)
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The tyrant always fears the slave.

That is because the tyrant does not engage in a mutually beneficial relationship with the slave. The tyrant uses the slave. He steals from the slave. The slave will eventually understand this and an armed slave is always a danger to the tyrant.

The Democrats want to dictate to you. Paying taxes can be mutually beneficial. Say for building roads or defending the country.

Paying taxes so that a Democrat politician can hand that money out to people not because they work for the government, but because they vote for the Democrat politician, is not mutually beneficial. The person paying the taxes receives no benefit in this transaction.

The Democrat politicians have thus become tyrants.....dictators. Taxes, taxation, is not a mutually beneficial exchange. It is a requirement to support tyrants.

It is slavery.

And the tyrants always fear the slaves.....especially armed slaves.

No, the tyrants need to be afraid of the taxpayers.


15 posted on 08/27/2015 8:03:20 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Oldpuppymax

Maybe they should use their brains if they indeed have any.

A higher gun OWNERSHIP rate will almost always mean a higher STOLEN GUN rate. A higher ownership rate may show a correlation, but that fact is not causality.

Once again, they cannot bring themselves to blame the criminal perpetrators.


16 posted on 08/27/2015 9:13:57 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: G Larry

I disagree.

Support for gun ownership has increased in recent years.

Open carry is happening in more and more states, and so is Constitutional Carry, Maine being the latest state to join the pack.

If we don’t stop the illegal invasion, however, it’s all a moot point, because in 30 - 40 years there won’t be a Constitution or an America for that matter. The illegal invasion AND unlimited legal immigration from the third world has to be reigned in severely.


17 posted on 08/27/2015 10:03:11 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Liberals are like the Taliban and ISIS....destroying cultural icons they don't like.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Frankly, it would be mass-murder of the citizens by our government if this were to happen.
We will not back down from a tyrannical government, no matter who, what, or where the government is located.


18 posted on 08/27/2015 10:06:35 AM PDT by vpintheak (Man up and bring it politicians!)
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If guns are responsible for the homicide rate, what’s responsible for the rate of rapes? And shall Americans also be relieved of that tool?


19 posted on 08/27/2015 10:19:20 AM PDT by DPMD
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http://www.forbes.com/sites#/sites/jacquelynsmith/2013/08/22/americas-10-deadliest-jobs-2/

Policing isn't as dangerous as a whole lot of every day jobs we the people do.

20 posted on 08/27/2015 10:36:18 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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