> “When one pregnancy succeeds, the remaining lives are destroyed or sold off to research.”
The premise is false and as I said the destroyed eggs are not because of intent but because of procedure. If the procedure were optimal, it would take only one egg to be fertilized and made successful. IT IS THE PROCEDURE.
It is also a fact, and a very prevalent one, that most eggs are not fertilized during normal sexual intercourse and the egg is lost in the woman’s period. By the logic of the premise you promote, God is a murderer because of this. Ridiculous.
IVF and Abortion are not comparable, not by a long stretch.
It is also a fact, and a very prevalent one, that most eggs are not fertilized during normal sexual intercourse and the egg is lost in the woman’s period. By the logic of the premise you promote, God is a murderer because of this. Ridiculous. One must be careful not to confuse the human life embodied in the fertilized egg with the egg or the sperm which by themselves are only germ cells.
An unfertilized egg which is menstruated is expelled because God, Himself, in His Wisdom has designed human beings this way.
God gives life and life is God's to take at His will. A person lives only so long as God Himself has ordained - whether it is 5 minutes as a proto-blastocyst, or 105 years as fully formed human being.
Man is in no place to accuse God of murder. Any man who does so misplaces himself above God. God is incapable of being accused by any man of murder. Man chose death over life when he chose sin over obedience to God.
The lives of aborted babies existed as long as God granted them life. The abortionist, however, who aborts absent the medical need to do so to save the mother's life is no less a murderer and guilty of such crime, even as anyone who for instance shoots and kills a fully formed adult absent the need for mortal self-defense.
For the one who slays that human being, they are responsible for taking that life, and it is held to their account.
For the one who dies, it was their appointed time to do so.
Scripture says so:
"A person’s days are determined; you have decreed the number of his months and have set limits he cannot exceed." Job 14:5
"Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be." Psalm 139:16
Those who perform IVF may only legitimately do so fertilizing and implanting one egg at a time. If the implanted fertilized egg implants successfully, life may be sustained to birth. If it does not, implantation was not meant to be. This is God's will, even as a spontaneous abortion occurs "naturally."
Creating and destroying "expendable" fertilized eggs, however, is murder, no different than non-maternal life-saving abortion.
FReegards!
Before you start writing as if the other person is stupid, you should learn some 7th-grade biology. By “lives,” I am not referring to “most eggs” which are “not fertlized.” So in no way is by my logic such that God would be a murderer.
Unlike normal conception, IVF discards are not merely eggs. They are fertilized, and hence, life is conceived. Then, because the woman only wants one pregnancy, they are deliberately and with FOREthought, destroyed. And that is why every major Christian group that bears any resemblance to traditional Christian values, from Right to Life, to the Southern Baptist Convention, to the Roman Catholic Church, to the American Life League abhors IVF.
The one sole exception are the 7th Day Adventists, who, in line with their hatred of all Christian history, decided to invent, without any biblical or scientific basis, their own notion as to when conception occurs. And this is why the nation’s largest fertility clinic is an offshoot of a 7th-Day Adventist hospital, Shady Grove Fertility Clinic. (They even have ‘shady’ in their self-description.)
