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Face Facts: Trump Supporters are Often as Incoherent as He Is
Libertarian Neocon ^ | libertarian neocon

Posted on 08/10/2015 6:14:20 AM PDT by libertarian neocon

Last night, instead of focusing on True Detective, I ended up getting into a bit of a flame war on Twitter with some Donald Trump supporters.  Oh my, those people have no clue and you really couldn't pin them down on anything.  Ask a simple question like "how do you know Trump will govern as a conservative?" and the responses you get are "do your homework", "you're not very bright are you" and "Trump/Cruz is the only hope for this country".  The last is would only be true if your hope is for a historic route of the Republican Party.  Even with his sky high GOP poll numbers and near 100% name recognition, Trump trails Hillary in election matchups by 15% according to RCP.  Cruz, who used to be though of as a bomb thrower but next to Trump looks calm and diplomatic, is behind Hillary by almost 8 points (though I'm not meaning this post to criticize Cruz, he is actually the Republican I agree most with, I just know I wouldn't be able to get elected either).  After all, I know that Trump wants to outdo Mitt Romney but I don't think that offending more than 47% of the population is the right goal to have.  Between his "blood" comments and his comments with regards to hispanics, he has offended at least 60% of the population.  Also you have to wonder whether in the minds of these people if a Cruz/Paul or Fiorina/Rubio ticket would mean the end of this country as we know it?

Another question is do Trump supporters have any idea who Trump really is or are they just so caught up in the cult of personality that they would kill Sharon Tate if he asked them to.  All the Trump supporters I was arguing with last night had "Jesus", "God" or "Christian" in their descriptions, which I find rather surprising.  Can you think of a GOP candidate who is more the opposite of what Jesus represents than Donald Trump?  He is foul-mouthed, thin-skinned, unforgiving and probably has committed adultery in every single one of his marriages multiple times.  He would never die for your sins given he won't even admit the ones he makes himself!  He's also said that he has never asked God for forgiveness

Also, every single person had the word "conservative" in their description as well.  Trump left the GOP in 1999 to join the Reform Party and did so poorly in their primary that he came in behind Pat Buchanan and John Hagelin, the meditation guru.  Did he go back to the Republican Party then?  Nope, he became a Democrat!  That means that he looked at people like Al Gore, John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi and thought, eh, they're a pretty good lot, I'm going with them.  He only became a Republican 5 years ago!  Other than building a giant wall with Mexico, can you be certain of anything that he will do?  My guess is that he would try to usurp as much power for the executive as possible, even more than Obama and then use government power to its limit.  Think Juan Peron with a horrible haircut.


Trump and his supporters really give the GOP a bad name.


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To: Fresh Wind

>> Reagan only became a Republican 3 years before his first run for governor <<

Good point. It tells me that DT needs to run for Governor of New York before he tries for POTUS.


81 posted on 08/10/2015 7:17:51 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: iontheball
Just another McCain type comment. So now we are labeled “crazies” and “incoherent.” Great, I consider it a badge of honor coming from the likes of these losers.

Good analogy. Spot on. Fear the "Wacko Birds"!



82 posted on 08/10/2015 7:18:09 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Axeslinger
This reply is far off base with assumptions made about whom I may or may not support. Calling out an baseless attack against Trump is not ipso-facto proof of being a supporter. Then you spend 90% of the rest arguing against what I didn't say... with a side-dish of ad-hominem (you people keep repeating the same mindless mantra). You're pegging my irony meter.

Address what I said, not what you assume.

83 posted on 08/10/2015 7:21:23 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Hawthorn
...DT needs to run for Governor of New York before he tries for POTUS.

Yeah, that's just like all those people who said that Cruz should stay in the Senate until he gets some more experience.

84 posted on 08/10/2015 7:25:59 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Lazamataz

My posting history would disagree with you, but don’t worry about it. We’ll be strangers.


85 posted on 08/10/2015 7:29:37 AM PDT by GoneSalt
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To: libertarian neocon
Between his "blood" comments and his comments with regards to hispanics, he has offended at least 60% of the population.


Like pulling stuff out of your ass eh?

86 posted on 08/10/2015 7:31:35 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: GoneSalt

The very best of strangers, too. :)


87 posted on 08/10/2015 7:35:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Dear Jeb Bush..... Trump upped his game. Up yours!.... Love, Laz.)
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To: livius
Ok, so when did Mr. Trump grab his crotch ?

When did he say he hates immigrants ?

Just the facts, please.

88 posted on 08/10/2015 7:45:48 AM PDT by onona (If I agree with something Donald says in a forest, and no one hears, am I still a "Trumper" ?)
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To: libertarian neocon

Let’s take inventory, shall we?

Libertarian: Atheistic, faggot loving, baby killing, dopesmoking truther.

Neocon: jingoistic adventurer abroad, starting wars with NO intention of winning them.

You’re the absolute worst of both worlds.

Now, tell me again why I should even listen to you, let alone side with you?


89 posted on 08/10/2015 7:50:42 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Apologies if this got posted already but I dont think it went through. Anyway here is my response:

“Libertarian: Atheistic, faggot loving, baby killing, dopesmoking truther.

Neocon: jingoistic adventurer abroad, starting wars with NO intention of winning them.”

Just like there are different types of Republicans, there are different types of libertarians and neocons. I am a libertarian who believes in God, am pro-Life and think radical islam is a great danger to western civilization (love the Andrew McCarthy books).

On the neocon thing, I dont want to be galavanting around the globe and oppose going into Syria. That said, I am hawkish on Iran though I want to avoid troops on the ground (the mountainous terrain would be a nightmare) but would rather just help Israel do it


90 posted on 08/10/2015 8:51:34 AM PDT by libertarian neocon
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To: TNMOUTH

How strange- how the faithful followers of Hillary and Trump are alike in so many ways. How dare anyone one dare to speak unkindly about their chosen demigod. Those who oppose their candidate are stupid and/or evil.


91 posted on 08/10/2015 8:53:07 AM PDT by Irish Queen ("Don't fence me in")
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To: GSWarrior

Why single me out? Everyone else is calling him a pimp as well. I’ll amend it to please you: he’s not a blog pimp just an extremely bad writer.


92 posted on 08/10/2015 8:58:53 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: livius

Wow, when did he crotch grab? Express hatred of immigrants? He only expressed an anger towards “just the evil ones Obama keeps importing (mostly legally).” Maybe you better read the news more closely.


93 posted on 08/10/2015 9:03:22 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: libertarian neocon
This man seem to miss the whole point....it not Trump...its Trump relative to all the rest... the GOP leadership has lied repeatedly to the base.. they have screw and abused the base....

the one thing Trump brings above all else.. he not in bed with any of the GOPe...when you organization is corrupt like the GOPe has prove, you have to go as far outside of it as possible to find a champion

That Trump makes all the “right” people scream in pain...is what make him so appealing

94 posted on 08/10/2015 9:10:41 AM PDT by tophat9000 (SCOTUS=News peak)
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To: Irish Queen

You forgot, that we are RINO shills on the payroll of the Bushes or the RNC...


95 posted on 08/10/2015 9:27:33 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: GeronL; libertarian neocon

Yeah, I don’t get that either. And, there are lot of people on FR who say it. I guess like global warming, once there’s a consensus, it becomes a settled fact.

Of course he won’t win if a good portion of the electorate says he won’t win and doesn’t support him.

I just don’t get it.


96 posted on 08/10/2015 9:47:47 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: libertarian neocon

“...She is pretty generic Republican ideology wise”

And, why on earth would we want another generic Republican? You might want to check out how she actually ranks: https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates

“...and gives a pretty good speech.”

I’ve read the same about our current president (damn, that’s (president) hard to write!). The clean, articulate one.

“...I know she has weaknesses but they all do.”

Why, yes, she does. Mostly in that she’s not even close to conservative. I have to admit, she presents very, very well. She’s quick, articulate and well informed. She would make an awesome press secretary. But no way could those positives overcome her lack of other positives.


97 posted on 08/10/2015 9:54:48 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: miss marmelstein

Trump is doing major gentital grabbing chimp behavior.

Trump is a leftist populist who wants more government. Illegals are illegal and are not our major immigration problem...all that needs to be done with them is enforce the existing laws, which Obama has prevented. But Trump has never attacked Obama’s legal immigration policy, which has taken from the LatinAmerican quota to give it to “people from Muslim lands.” This is why the Chechen tsarnaevs were legal, although one of them had overstayed his visa, and they were receiving welfare, free college educations, and everything you could want thanks to Obama. I’ve never heard a peep from the bloviating Trump on this.

Maybe people should take a closer look at what he is saying...although actually it’s pretty content-free, and he’s relying on his schtick to carry him past any questions.


98 posted on 08/10/2015 10:17:54 AM PDT by livius
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To: GoneSalt
GoneSalt

Born on Date = Since Jul 9, 2015

Zot on Date = ?

Retread.
99 posted on 08/10/2015 11:07:29 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: livius
Oh, so you meant metaphorically, right? Not literally. You might have said that in the first place instead of sending others scattering to find the video. Sounds like you might have a dirty mind along with the people who think he was talking about menstruation.

Be gone, FRiend!

100 posted on 08/10/2015 11:11:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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