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Face Facts: Trump Supporters are Often as Incoherent as He Is
Libertarian Neocon ^ | libertarian neocon

Posted on 08/10/2015 6:14:20 AM PDT by libertarian neocon

Last night, instead of focusing on True Detective, I ended up getting into a bit of a flame war on Twitter with some Donald Trump supporters.  Oh my, those people have no clue and you really couldn't pin them down on anything.  Ask a simple question like "how do you know Trump will govern as a conservative?" and the responses you get are "do your homework", "you're not very bright are you" and "Trump/Cruz is the only hope for this country".  The last is would only be true if your hope is for a historic route of the Republican Party.  Even with his sky high GOP poll numbers and near 100% name recognition, Trump trails Hillary in election matchups by 15% according to RCP.  Cruz, who used to be though of as a bomb thrower but next to Trump looks calm and diplomatic, is behind Hillary by almost 8 points (though I'm not meaning this post to criticize Cruz, he is actually the Republican I agree most with, I just know I wouldn't be able to get elected either).  After all, I know that Trump wants to outdo Mitt Romney but I don't think that offending more than 47% of the population is the right goal to have.  Between his "blood" comments and his comments with regards to hispanics, he has offended at least 60% of the population.  Also you have to wonder whether in the minds of these people if a Cruz/Paul or Fiorina/Rubio ticket would mean the end of this country as we know it?

Another question is do Trump supporters have any idea who Trump really is or are they just so caught up in the cult of personality that they would kill Sharon Tate if he asked them to.  All the Trump supporters I was arguing with last night had "Jesus", "God" or "Christian" in their descriptions, which I find rather surprising.  Can you think of a GOP candidate who is more the opposite of what Jesus represents than Donald Trump?  He is foul-mouthed, thin-skinned, unforgiving and probably has committed adultery in every single one of his marriages multiple times.  He would never die for your sins given he won't even admit the ones he makes himself!  He's also said that he has never asked God for forgiveness

Also, every single person had the word "conservative" in their description as well.  Trump left the GOP in 1999 to join the Reform Party and did so poorly in their primary that he came in behind Pat Buchanan and John Hagelin, the meditation guru.  Did he go back to the Republican Party then?  Nope, he became a Democrat!  That means that he looked at people like Al Gore, John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi and thought, eh, they're a pretty good lot, I'm going with them.  He only became a Republican 5 years ago!  Other than building a giant wall with Mexico, can you be certain of anything that he will do?  My guess is that he would try to usurp as much power for the executive as possible, even more than Obama and then use government power to its limit.  Think Juan Peron with a horrible haircut.


Trump and his supporters really give the GOP a bad name.


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To: libertarian neocon

...“Democrats have opened our borders to all manner of horrific Third World violence, crime, and disease. The GOP has supported and endorsed this vile activity every single step of the way. Trump has tapped into the fury of the American people over the unrelenting anti-American NWO push of our paid employees in government. Trump could win this on this one issue alone. Americans are tired of being betrayed by their government on both sides of the aisle.”...


41 posted on 08/10/2015 6:42:23 AM PDT by Lopeover (My vote is valuable, you must earn it.)
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To: libertarian neocon; Lazamataz
Trump and his supporters really give the GOP a bad name.

The McConnell / Boehner Axis already had that nailed down. Trump is simply shining the light on 'em.

42 posted on 08/10/2015 6:42:49 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: GeronL

I agree. Cruz has, by far, the most consistent, Conservative record. He also is known for fighting the DC establishment, especially the RINOs.

In additional, he is a great communicator who knows how to use rhetoric, has a tremendous knowledge of the issues and is an expert at avoiding gotcha questions and turning them around on those trying to trap him.

He is the both the most conservative and electable candidate IMO.


43 posted on 08/10/2015 6:43:45 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (Donald Trump: New York City Liberal)
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To: libertarian neocon

If you’re not politically astute enough to realize that Trump OR Cruz will wipe the floor with Hillary then the rest of your observations aren’t worth much.


44 posted on 08/10/2015 6:43:55 AM PDT by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: nhwingut; libertarian neocon
You are right. Trump is not a conservative. He’s a wrecking ball. And I’m enjoying watching he GOPe scurry like rats

... and we are at a point in history where we need a wrecking ball, more than anything else. The DC cartel has made a playing field so unlevel that a conservative can accomplish little, without a wrecking ball leading the way. As a result, for conservatism to flourish, we need someone like Trump out in front. If this "embarrasses" the original poster, so be it. We can either assuage his delicate sensibilities (at the cost of any conservative potential for this country), or we can ignore the effect the unwashed are having on his vast intellect (and we can destroy, at least for a time, the assembly of forces standing in the way of conservatism).
45 posted on 08/10/2015 6:44:16 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (The next Ronald Reagan will not be a Republican, but rather a former Republican)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, are you still talking?

Look, instead of contaminating the threads with your personal attacks and drivel, and since you can’t have a decent discussion on the issues, why not move these comments to the mail page so that other Freepers can use this forum for actual debate?

BTW, you still haven’t proven, nor can you, how I have lied or twisted words about Trump. We know you aren’t that smart, but try harder next time.

Have a great day, sunshine! I look forward to the e-mails :-)


46 posted on 08/10/2015 6:45:09 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: Lazamataz

Incoherent, Laz...

Yep, fits.


47 posted on 08/10/2015 6:45:43 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: libertarian neocon

Did you pick this name for your blog because “Dumbass Whig” was taken?


48 posted on 08/10/2015 6:46:23 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Dr.Deth
that is the standard retort from the trump supporters. It's as if there are only two candidates in the race...Trump and Bush. However there are several candidates who are most definitely part of the GOPe, who are INFINITELY more reliably conservative, more trustworthy, more SANE...

Is Cruz part of GOPe? Hardly, he's actually been challenging them, to his own detriment at every opportunity. But you'll say, look his support is lower than Trump's...That's because you people keep repeating the same mindless mantra RATHER THAN SUPPORTING AN ACTUAL CONSERVATIVE!

49 posted on 08/10/2015 6:46:50 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: TNMOUTH

Author needs to learn the difference between historic route (66) and rout.


50 posted on 08/10/2015 6:47:25 AM PDT by skippyjonjones
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To: TNMOUTH
Incoherent, Laz... Yep, fits.

Yep. It does. Fits you very well.

Of course, I would add 'liar', 'word twister', and 'goalpost mover' to your description.

LAUGHING OUT LOUD AT YOU!


51 posted on 08/10/2015 6:49:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Dear Jeb Bush..... Trump upped his game. Up yours!.... Love, Laz.)
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To: miss marmelstein
From the piece:they just so caught up in the cult of personality that they would kill Sharon Tate if he asked them to

Miss M, thank you for pointing that out to everyone. Saves me the trouble of reading this POS article.

Seriously? Donald Trump has the same Svengali power of Charlie Manson. Beyond ridiculous.

52 posted on 08/10/2015 6:51:30 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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To: libertarian neocon

Face Facts: Anti-Trump are paranoid, they have irrational fears they cannot back up using facts or logic and they tend to post ridiculous things like this thread.


53 posted on 08/10/2015 6:51:48 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Theo

This is somebody obviously pimping his blog - somebody who seems to spend an inordinate amount of time on twitter engaging people in idiot arguments and dragging the names of murder victims into it for good measure. You don’t like Trump, fine. But comparing him to Charles Manson is childish and will persuade no one.


54 posted on 08/10/2015 6:52:26 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: libertarian neocon

Just because you are offended doesn’t mean you are right, it just means you are too immature to handle your emotions and want everyone else to do it for you.


55 posted on 08/10/2015 6:53:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: TNMOUTH
Look, instead of contaminating the threads with your personal attacks and drivel,

OMFG! Like OBAMA, you claim people do what you do! You are shameless! You came to my attention BECAUSE of your personal attacks and drivel!

BTW, you still haven’t proven, nor can you, how I have lied or twisted words about Trump.

ANOTHER goalpost move? You really ARE a liberal! You are as shameless as any liberal has ever been!

Here's a link where I prove you are liar and a twister of words.

You are a shameless, low intelligence liar.

56 posted on 08/10/2015 6:53:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Dear Jeb Bush..... Trump upped his game. Up yours!.... Love, Laz.)
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To: libertarian neocon
I think most people are supporting Trump right now because of the issues he's raising. The more they rail against him, particularly the Republican establishment, and don't embrace these issues or even acknowledge them but instead continue to bash him, his support increases. He's actually getting stronger. Republicans need to clean house and maybe the people are beginning to think he could be the one with the cajones to do it.

Actually if the Republican candidates had him as a campaign adviser instead of the advisers they've been listening to, we would have beaten 0bama. Let's stop bashing him and start taking his ideas seriously.

57 posted on 08/10/2015 6:53:57 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: be-baw

To pimp one’s blog one only posts a link, forcing the reader to click to read more. This does not qualify as a blog pimp.


58 posted on 08/10/2015 6:53:59 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Click HERE to skip this tag line.)
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To: miss marmelstein

To pimp one’s blog one only posts a link, forcing the reader to click to read more. This does not qualify as a blog pimp.


59 posted on 08/10/2015 6:55:05 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Click HERE to skip this tag line.)
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To: grania

Ditto your post. Exactly right.


60 posted on 08/10/2015 6:56:03 AM PDT by dforest
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