Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

It's Time for Conservatives to Reject Donald Trump
The Federalist ^ | 07-29-2015 | Patrick Hedger

Posted on 08/02/2015 5:52:26 AM PDT by parksstp

This has gone on long enough. All that anyone can talk about right now is how Republican voters are itching for someone to “stand and fight,” “speak his mind,” and “tell it like it is.” All right then, here goes.

Donald Trump is not a conservative, and it’s beyond time every Republican knows it. This MSNBC caricature of the GOP incarnate is getting heaps of praise from frustrated conservative base voters and unfortunately too much airtime from conservative political pundits because he evidently “tells it like it is.”

Except that he doesn’t.

(Excerpt) Read more at thefederalist.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016; donaldtrump; polls; trump; trump2016; trumpforpresident
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-174 next last
To: LS

I like what Trump says (mostly) but I have no level of comfort whatsoever that he actually believes what he says.

I believe that he is very good at saying what conservatives want to hear, but I have no confidence that if he were to get the nomination, he would immediately change whatever he says to suit swing voters and liberals.

That may well be what most politicians do to get elected, but...I don’t think that is what this country needs.

Personally, I don’t like Trump, he comes across like a blowhard to me, but...well, I haven’t seen many politicians that don’t fit that description.

Sigh. I just hope it doesn’t come down to me having to pull a lever to choose between Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush. Argh. I can’t stand it.


41 posted on 08/02/2015 6:17:54 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: parksstp

Actually it’s the fact that Trump is a winner, that’s your problem.


42 posted on 08/02/2015 6:18:18 AM PDT by GoneSalt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: parksstp
"Trump’s number-one issue is immigration and Mexico. They are “the new China,” after all… whatever that means. Thank you, Mr. Trump, for raising the issue of border security, as if it weren’t already an integral part of every single platform the other GOP candidates (even of Rand Paul). We can agree that border security is important. "

Bull, the only one that will build the wall is Trump. Everyone knows this.

43 posted on 08/02/2015 6:18:25 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LS

Thanks for weighing in LS.
I see Trump as the Mussolini that America may or may not need.
He will get the trains running on time. He will get the country working I assume.

But Trump is not a conservative. I have no idea what Trump’s ideology is other than as the populist de jure. I fear that he is anti-free trade. A big tariff guy. I have yet to hear Trump put two sentences together that explain the how or why of anything he will do.

Cruz is my guy too, but Trump is sucking in all his wind.

I like Cruz for his Reaganism. I think Rubio has the best grasp of foreign affairs. And Walker would probably be most effective in bringing education back into our schools by weakening the unions.


44 posted on 08/02/2015 6:18:51 AM PDT by Auslander154
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: parksstp

Who are you supporting?


45 posted on 08/02/2015 6:19:07 AM PDT by Enlightened1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: parksstp
The following is my outline of Trump's book:

Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again.
Copyright 2011 by Donald Trump

ONE - GET TOUGH

“Restoring American wealth will require that we get tough. The next president must understand that America’s business is business. We need a president who knows how to get things done, who can keep America strong, safe, and free, and who can negotiate deals that benefit America, not the countries on the other side of the table. A president doesn’t “create” jobs, only businesses can do that. But he can help create an environment that allows the rest of us—entrepreneurs, small businessmen, big businessmen—to make America rich. The damage that Democrats, weak Republicans, and this disaster of a president have inflicted on America has put us in a mess like we’ve never seen before in our lifetimes. To fix the problem we’ve got to be smart and get tough. There’s no time to waste. I love America. And when you love something, you protect it passionately—fiercely, even. We are the greatest country the world has ever known. I make no apologies for this country, my pride in it, or my desire to see us become strong and rich again. After all, wealth funds our freedom. But for too long we’ve been pushed around, used by other countries, and ill-served by politicians in Washington who measure their success by how rapidly they can expand the federal debt, and your tax burden, with their favorite government programs.”

TWO - TAKE THE OIL
To the Victor Go the Spoils
Leadership Is Down, Gas Prices Are Up
Take On the Oil Thugs
Sue OPEC
Use America’s Resources and Create Jobs

“So let’s drill already. And let’s do it in America. It’s not only economically smart, it’s strategic—the Middle East needs to get the message loud and clear that we’re done coming to them on bended knee. We’re waking up, getting up, and making America the powerhouse we once were. Take the oil, sue OPEC, and drill domestically—if we do these three big things, we’ll be on the right track to rebuild American strength, wealth, jobs, and opportunity. Will it be tough? Sure. But that’s what makes us Americans: we do hard things, and we do them well . . . if we have the right leadership.”

THREE - TAX CHINA TO SAVE AMERICAN JOBS
In China’s Crosshairs
Made in the U.S.A.
No More Currency Manipulation
Stop Stealing Our Technology

“China presents three big threats to the United States in its outrageous currency manipulation, its systematic attempt to destroy our manufacturing base, and its industrial espionage and cyber warfare against America. The Chinese have been running roughshod over us for years. But the Obama administration, in its incredible weakness, seems almost complicit in wanting to help the Chinese trample us. Obama claims we can’t do what’s in our interests because it might spark a “trade war”—as if we’re not in one now. And if we are in trade war, Obama’s policies amount to virtual economic treason. Still, I believe we can overcome China’s threats with a smart strategy and a strong negotiator.”

FOUR - IT’S YOUR MONEY–YOU SHOULD KEEP MORE OF IT
Obama’s Clueless on Taxes
Time to Get Smart on Taxes

“We need a tax system that is fair and smart—one that encourages growth, savings, and investment. It’s time to stop punishing hard work and entrepreneurship. Specifically, we need to do five things.
First, the death tax needs to die.
Second, we need to lower tax rates on capital gains and dividends—two more taxes that are proven jobs and investment killers.
The third thing we need to do is lower the U.S. corporate tax rate from 39 percent to zero.
Fourth, it’s time to get tough on those who outsource jobs overseas and reward companies who stay loyal to America.
Here’s my income tax plan: • Up to $30,000, you pay 1 percent • From $30,000 to $100,000, you pay 5 percent • From $100,000 to $1 million, you pay 10 percent • On $1 million or above, you pay 15 percent

FIVE - A GOVERNMENT WE CAN AFFORD
Save Social Security and Medicaid
My $100 Million Gift to the U.S. Goes Uncollected
Washington Wastes Your Money
Crack Down on Massive Fraud
Negotiate Smarter

“It starts with China and OPEC. The hundreds of billions of dollars they steal from us each year must end right away. We need a president with a titanium spine who will stand up to these shakedown artists and demand that they get their greedy hands out of our pockets effective immediately.
That one action alone will result in a windfall of hundreds of billions of dollars to help us pay down our debt and meet our commitments.
Next, we enforce a zero-tolerance policy for the kind of brainless government waste that we’ve all become far too accustomed to from Washington. That means we streamline our systems and end the waste.
Third, we go after the criminals and con artists who are defrauding taxpayers of $243 billion every year in Medicare fraud and billions more in other kinds of fraud, such as the disability racket. Sitting back while these crooks steal from hard-working people and rob deserving Americans of the benefits they paid for is vile. We must prosecute these thugs to the fullest extent of the law and recoup the hundreds of billions they take from us year in and year out.
Fourth, we must save Social Security through economic success.
Fifth, we need to put Americans back to work and kick the community organizer out of office so we can instill some fiscal sanity in Washington.,Br> We do those five things and we will pass along to our kids and grandkids not only a government they can afford, but also one they can be proud of.

The Solution

SIX - STRENGTHEN AMERICAN MUSCLE
CHINA
RUSSIA
IRAN
PAKISTAN
LIBYA

“1. American interests come first. Always. No apologies.
2. Maximum firepower and military preparedness.
3. Only go to war to win.
4. Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies.
5. Keep the technological sword razor sharp.
6. See the unseen. Prepare for threats before they materialize.
7. Respect and support our present and past warriors.

SEVEN - A SAFETY NET, NOT A HAMMOCK
Proper Perspective on Poverty
Childhood Poverty Is a Tragedy
Obama’s “Food Stamp Crime Wave”
Welfare to Work

“The secret to the 1996 Welfare Reform Act’s success was that it tied welfare to work. To get your check, you had to prove that you were enrolled in job-training or trying to find work. But here’s the rub: the 1996 Welfare Reform Act only dealt with one program, Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), not the other seventy-six welfare programs which, today, cost taxpayers more than $900 billion annually.30 We need to take a page from the 1996 reform and do the same for other welfare programs. Benefits should have strings attached to them. After all, if it’s our money recipients are getting, we the people should have a say in how it’s spent.

Require drug testing with details and how to go about it including it money received for children..

“Finally, it’s time to get tough on those who cheat and defraud taxpayers. The Obama-fueled welfare “crime wave” must end fast. Otherwise, it will further spread the mindset that says, “Who cares if I cheat the system, it’s not my money. I deserve free stuff.” That means punishing violators, not turning a blind eye like the Obama administration has done. And that includes punishing corrupt bureaucrats who run scams and leave taxpayers holding the bill. Also, no more millionaires getting welfare checks. That’s outrageous and must be stopped immediately.”

EIGHT - REPEAL OBAMACARE
Obamacare Puts Small Businesses on Life Support
Obamacare Passed, Premiums Skyrocketed
Obamacare Is Killing Jobs
Obamacare Will Destroy Patient Choice and Explode Spending
Bring Down Costs through Competition
Real Tort Reform Right Now

“One way to infuse more competition into the market is to let citizens purchase health-care plans across state lines.”
Real Tort Reform

NINE - IT’S CALLED ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FOR A REASON
Illegal Criminals Have Got to Go
Illegals Are Breaking Our Bank
Liberal Myths
Reform Our Illegal Immigration System
Work Visas
The 5-Point Trump Plan

“Illegal immigration is a wrecking ball aimed at U.S. taxpayers. Washington needs to get tough and fight for “We the People,” not for the special interests who want cheap labor and a minority voting bloc.”
Secure the boarder
Enforce the laws
Overturn Obama’s insane new ICE recommendations for illegal immigrant detention facilities.
“The next part of my plan involves opposing the so-called DREAM Act”

TEN - THE AMERICA OUR CHILDREN DESERVE America the Exceptional

“We have to get tough on the notion that government is the solution to every problem. It’s not. As President Reagan said, “Government isn’t the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.” Barack Obama is the most liberal president the United States has ever dared to elect. When he was running f or office, Obama warned the country that his goal was to “fundamentally transform America”and that he believed in “spreading the wealth around. ”Now, with three years under his belt, America looks like an economic wasteland. One out of every five men you pass on your way to work is out of work. Every seventh person you pass on the sidewalk is now on food stamps. Forty-six million Americans—more than at any time ever in the history of this country—now live under the poverty line. Businesses are being shuttered. Foreclosure rates are at historic highs. For the first time in American history, the United States has lost its triple-A credit rating. Gas prices have doubled. Our national debt has exploded. Jobs and economic growth are nowhere in sight. How can we feel good about handing over this mess to our children and grandchildren? How can we think about the hundreds of thousands of soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines who have died for our freedom and way of life and not be ashamed at how we’ve allowed their gift to be trashed and abused? It’s a total disgrace. If we’re going to turn this thing around, we have to do it fast. It’s time to get tough. The time is now”

46 posted on 08/02/2015 6:19:10 AM PDT by Amntn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sasparilla
GOP bumper stickers

Just wait until we get the majority in both houses, then we will show them....

47 posted on 08/02/2015 6:19:46 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

I’m with you. Im for Cruz. I think Trump would be a great VP.


48 posted on 08/02/2015 6:20:07 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

It is time we reject the go along to get along liars club.


49 posted on 08/02/2015 6:20:18 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: hadaclueonce

F em all. they are all just in for the money.


50 posted on 08/02/2015 6:20:43 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: rlmorel

I 2nd your sentiments. My post 44.


51 posted on 08/02/2015 6:20:56 AM PDT by Auslander154
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: LS

I just watched Trump (on the phone) on “This Week” with Jonathan Karl and Trump said, (I paraphrase)the enemy is chopping off Christian heads and you are worried about waterboarding? I like waterboarding, it is very effective.


52 posted on 08/02/2015 6:22:08 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: parksstp
Donald Trump is not a conservative, and it’s beyond time every Republican knows it.

Fine. So he's not a Conservative.

Then why are all the Men Seeking Men mediums getting their Pull-Ups in a bundle?

53 posted on 08/02/2015 6:22:42 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: b4its2late
I’m with you. Im for Cruz. I think Trump would be a great VP.

Trump won't be Veep. If he flames out, he's gone from the race.

If he doesn't flame out, he's gonna win the nomination.

As has been said, the only candidate who can stop Trump...is Trump.

54 posted on 08/02/2015 6:25:08 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: parksstp

Agree to a point. Trump isnt a conservative by any means and conservatives can argue over points, but it’s time to re think Trump in real terms.

He will have followers but they will be few. Right now he has a lot of folks behind him because he is hitting the establishment between the eyes....and its fun to watch. People are really PO’d out in the real country and Trump is giving them entertainment and a sense of “getting the scumbags”. Im in that group but I also realize Trump may be just a temporary blip on the screen.


55 posted on 08/02/2015 6:26:21 AM PDT by rrrod (Just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: parksstp

A million miles from reality.

When I get phone calls from both life-long and ex-California low-info liberals telling me that Trump is exactly what we need to restore America from the Obama disaster, close the borders, shake up Wash DC, and otherwise “Make America Great Again” you know that Donald Trump can be the next president.

These same folks wouldn’t vote for Jeb Bush in a million years and/or don’t know any of the other Republican candidates. “Cruz who?” is reflected in the polls, folks. Get a grip.

We don’t need a party hack(not saying Cruz is a party hack by any means)to save the country, we need a leader who is going to kick ass and take names. A leader who says what he means and means what he says. And last but not the least: A candidate that can WIN.

We’ll see how things go over the next few months but for right now it’s: Donald Trump For President and Cruz, Palin, Fiorina, Walker, and Carson in his administration.


56 posted on 08/02/2015 6:27:00 AM PDT by TTFlyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

Very well said.


57 posted on 08/02/2015 6:28:31 AM PDT by rrrod (Just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: LS

Exactly. I’d pick Cruz, then Walker, probably not Trump until after a few more.

BUT if we are talking who can win, probably it’s Walker first.

I think Cruz is the only 100% conservative.


58 posted on 08/02/2015 6:28:57 AM PDT by Williams
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: parksstp
I don't need PATRICK HEDGER or anyone else to tell me who to vote for. I've seen more general election cycles than PATRICK HEDGER has academic credentials. PATRICK HEDGER admittedly aspires to become one of the 'chattering class' but you would like me to take HIS advice? I don't think so.

Lemmings disguised as voters are how we to where we are today.

59 posted on 08/02/2015 6:29:27 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ronnie raygun
Especially if we've got to keep our mouths shut to avoid upsetting muslims.

Donald Trump lambasts 'disgusting' Pam Geller for baiting Muslims with 'draw the prophet' contest in Texas
60 posted on 08/02/2015 6:29:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-174 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson