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Vin Baker blew $100 million, now working at Starbucks.
ThyBlackMan ^ | July 29, 2015 | Dr. Boyce Watkins, founder, Your Black World Coalition

Posted on 08/01/2015 4:26:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

If there is any story on this blog that you’re going to grow tired of reading, it’s the one about the former NBA or NFL athlete who is now broke and living with his mama. These stories are everywhere, and it has people wondering if the Harvard-educate d financial managers being employed by professional sports leagues are actually helping these guys protect their wealth or if the players are being chewed up and spit out by people who could care less about them.

But we’re all responsible for our outcomes, and when we read stories like this one, we have to look in the mirror to find the answers.

Meet Vin Baker.

Vin was once one of the greatest players in the NBA, earning over $100 million dollars throughout his career. But things have changed for poor Vin, as he now finds himself at the bottom of the economic barrel, struggling along like the rest of us.

How bad have things gotten for Vin? Well, he’s now working at Starbucks. He’s not an owner, or even a manager. He’s the insanely tall brother asking you if you want whipped cream on your Caramel Latte.

According to The Providence Journal, the four-time NBA All-star’s next big goal is to become a manager at the local Starbucks in North Kingston, Rhode Island. While there is nothing wrong with being a Starbucks manager, this is a problem when you once earned nearly a million dollars a month. During his career, Vin earned enough money in two weeks for a single mother to make last for a lifetime.

Here’s what Vin Baker had to say, as the 43-year old former superstar reflected on his life.

When you learn lessons in life, no matter what level you’re at financially, the important part to realize is it could happen. I was an alcoholic, I lost a fortune. I had great talent and lost it. For the people on the outside looking in, they’re like ‘Wow.’ For me, I’m 43 and I have four kids. I have to pick up the pieces. I’m a father. I’m a minister in my father’s church. I have to take the story and show that you can bounce back. If I use my notoriety in the right way, most people will appreciate this guy is just trying to bounce back in his life.

Vin Baker gives credit for his Starbucks opportunity to CEO Howard Schultz, who owned the Seattle Supersonics during Vin’s time on the team from 1997 -2002. It’s ironic that Schultz would give Vin a chance to work behind the counter, but didn’t consider this college-educated black man for a position in the front office of an NBA team. This either says a lot about Schultz, a lot about Baker, or a lot about Schultz’s perception of Baker as a human being. It also reminds me of just how many great black athletes there are who can’t even get jobs as coaches at the same universities and NBA teams that exploited them many years ago.

Vin Baker says that he spent a lot of years as an alcoholic and made some very bad choices. Yea brother, we can see that. The more toxic aspects of athlete culture (liquor, weed, women, clubbing, etc) have destroyed men to the point that they end up as shadows of who they once were, lost souls roaming the earth reflecting on their former glory. There’s nothing sadder than to see a 40-something year old man who’s best days occurred before 1998.

Vin’s not the only one affected by his long list of poor decisions: $100 million dollars is enough for a family to survive for 20 generations. So, rather than Vin’s great grandchildren having their college tuition paid for and a downpayment on their first home, they are going to start off with virtually nothing….as if their great grandfather never set foot on an NBA court. Lots of people are hurt when a black man chooses to be a follower rather than a leader.

Here’s the bottom line:

These stories are never going to end, but they can certainly be confronted. There is absolutely no reason that someone who earns this much money should ever go broke. The keys to financial devastation for most professional athletes tend to be related to various forms of intoxication, but not the kind that Vin received from the liquor bottle. It comes from the intoxicants of fame, fortune, arrogance, weed, countless women and the racial isolation that many black athletes receive when they are insulated from those who truly care about them.

In all of those years that these brothers are encouraged to neglect education, they are also being led to believe that life is always going to be good for them, that they can make decisions without consequences, and that everything is going to be OK. Then, by the time they figure out that the world has screwed them, their hair is gray, their careers are over, and their spirits and bodies are broken. Life doesn’t have a rewind button, so we can’t always go back and fix whatever we did to destroy our lives in the first place.

Black athletes are valuable commodities to those who run NBA teams, as well as the managers, attorneys, universities and agents who are all seeking to bloodsuck a piece of their fortune along the way. But after these men have been financially violated by everyone around them, they are dropped right back into the black community where they started. When they are on top of the world, they’re convinced that they are too good to be around us. But when they’ve been used up by our society, they are sent right back to the hood.

Let’s talk financial fundamentals here, since this seemingly complex problem has some very simple solutions:

The way for no athlete to ever go broke is this: Save 10% of your income and have the money invested in a diversified stock portfolio. Have the money taken out of your account before you can even touch it, giving someone you trust (ie. your mama or perhaps a trust fund) the legal rights to control that money without your permission for the entirety of your career. If you do that, then by the time your career is over, you’ll have enough interest coming in to last you for the rest of your life, even if you accumulate a couple of child support and BMW payments along the way.

The Vin Baker tragedy is one that keeps repeating itself due to a lack of financial literacy in the African American community. Money, especially this kind of money, is not meant to be used to buy Gucci hats, expensive cars, and other worthless material possessions sold to black people by big, white companies that won’t even hire your black ass. Money is CAPITAL, which means that it’s meant to develop industry, build businesses, create jobs, and accumulate into massive amounts of generational wealth. If you’ve earned $100 million dollars in your career, there is absolutely no reason that your children should have to go to white people and beg for a job.

If we are ever going to achieve economic equality in America, we’ve got to reshape the way we look at money. Money is not meant for meaningless consumption. It’s meant to build ECONOMIC EMPIRES. Every athlete who ends up going broke represents a huge and wasted opportunity.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: athletes; basketball; dumbass; idiot; millionaires; nba; vinbaker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Willie Hurt's crack addiction did him in

In 1989, Willie won a $3.1 million jackpot in the Michigan Lottery.

Fast-forward to two years later and Hurt got divorced, lost custody of his children, was charged with attempted murder, and picked up one helluva crack-cocaine addiction. 

The habit was so bad, it sucked away his entire fortune.

http://www.businessinsider.com/17-lottery-winners-who-blew-it-all-2013-5?op=1

41 posted on 08/01/2015 5:28:25 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: IronJack

I know, we keep seeing these stories about how tragic it is that these people keep winding up like this. The fact is, most of them do. The percentage of them that keep it together and do well their whole life is in the single-digits. Most of them just give it away, drink it, snort it, and lose it in divorces (and 99% of the time, the ex-wife blows what she gets, too).


42 posted on 08/01/2015 5:32:25 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
waitress-food-diner

Waffle House Waitress Wins Lottery, Loses A Million To The Tax Man

Noelia de la Cruz
Mar 7, 2012

A former Waffle House waitress just got served some karma: The IRS ordered Tonda Lynn Dickerson to pay a gift tax for $1,119,347.90, reports Forbes' Kelly Phillips Erb

The ruling came exactly 13 years after Dickerson won $10 million from a lotto ticket given to her by Edward Seward, a regular at the Green Bay, Ala. Waffle House where she worked.

Seward and Dickerson's colleagues—who also received tickets as gifts—sued Dickerson, alleging that they'd verbally agreed to split the earnings if anyone won. (Seward alleged he was promised a pick up truck.)

Neither party had a case since oral contracts related to gambling are illegal in Alabama, but by placing her winnings in a corporation and granting her family 51 percent of the stock, Dickerson qualified for the gift tax, according to the US Tax Court.  

http://www.businessinsider.com/waffle-house-waitress-wins-lotto-jackpot-loses-a-million-to-the-tax-man-2012-3?utm_source=alerts&nr_email_referer=1

43 posted on 08/01/2015 5:33:30 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: chasio649

Yeah, what the hell. So now being radically overpaid is “being exploited”? No, Vin the moron did this all to himself. He had all kinds of opportunities and he blew every one of them. That’s the college’s fault? That’s the NBA’s fault? NO, that’s on him.

And I get sick of how these stories always drone on about how those around him suffer, too, because they’re no longer getting theirs. Now they have to go get a job! Their houses aren’t paid for! Their college isn’t paid for! Cry me a river. They think that when you come into money, you’re supposed to put your hundred closest relatives on easy street. The media is full of stories about athletes that “give something back” by coming back to whatever ghetto they came from and throwing a bunch of money around. Screw all that, how lame.


44 posted on 08/01/2015 5:43:18 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Vin Baker tragedy

TRAGEDY!!! What's so tragic about a fool losing all his money. I don't find it tragic that some fool loses all his money. In fact, I find particular shadenfreud. A fool who gets a 100 million dollars and buys a 200 million dollar house is a damned fool and not tragedy.
45 posted on 08/01/2015 5:52:24 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
These stories are everywhere, and it has people wondering if the Harvard-educate d financial managers being employed by professional sports leagues are actually helping these guys protect their wealth or if the players are being chewed up and spit out by people who could care less about them.

So let me get this straight, the most overpaid people on the planet are getting screwed. If the checkbook is in your hand, it's your fault when it all gets blown.

As for the Harvard educated financial managers, they don't control the guy's money. All they can do is tell the ballplayer what to do, they can't go do it for him. All they can do is show the guy the right path, he's gotta walk it--or not, which is usually the case.

Media liberals have this weird idea that it's the employer's job to manage your finances for you. When you buy a house or car, it's the bank's job to manage it and make all the right choices for you. That's the biggest load of crap on the planet and it always amazes me when people have the nerve to act surprised that that's not how the world works.

46 posted on 08/01/2015 5:59:21 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: Ouderkirk

That’s right. Something given to you has no value.


47 posted on 08/01/2015 6:00:26 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: goodwithagun

If he’s like 98% of the ballplayers out there, he didn’t spend a collective 100 hours in class to get his “degree” and has trouble reading the job application.


48 posted on 08/01/2015 6:02:50 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
How hard is it to stick some money in some Vanguard funds?

Been doing just that since the late 70s.

49 posted on 08/01/2015 6:15:14 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
How hard is it to stick some money in some Vanguard funds?

Been doing just that since the late 70s.

50 posted on 08/01/2015 6:15:14 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry Vin its just super dumb beyond reason. If you just took one million (a measly one large of your fortune) and put it into an investment fund and didnt touch it unless absolutely necessary you wouldn’t be in this situation. Hope you get your life back on track but man— what an unnecessary detour.


51 posted on 08/01/2015 6:40:53 PM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But when they’ve been used up by our society, they are sent right back to the hood.”

He’s from Old Saybrook, CT. The nearest “hood” is 4 towns and 15 miles to the east in New London.


52 posted on 08/01/2015 6:52:16 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Oh yeah. Look at Erin Moran or Margot Kidder. Brigitte Nielsen. Nick Nolte. Randy Travis. Burt Reynolds. Rode the roller coaster and got off on the bottom.


53 posted on 08/01/2015 7:28:11 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I admire him for taking on a humble job.

He’s not being idle, not sulking, not doing crime.
His goal of becoming a manager is honorable.

A lot of people would snap going through that kind of fall.

Why does everyone have to pull folks down instead of looking for the good.


54 posted on 08/01/2015 8:31:46 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

Show me where I “pulled him down” my friend.


55 posted on 08/01/2015 8:35:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When comments aren’t directed at anyone in particular, the etiquette on FR is to respond to the first post (person who posted the article)


56 posted on 08/01/2015 8:45:51 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

Perhaps the comment should have been aimed at a poster who “pulled him down.”


57 posted on 08/01/2015 8:48:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It was a comment about humanity in general, not directed at a specific freeper.

How can you can take the comment as if it was written to you personally when it actually said “everyone”?

“Why does everyone have to pull folks down instead of looking for the good.”


58 posted on 08/01/2015 8:51:03 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos

Okay, got it.


59 posted on 08/01/2015 9:01:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...Money is CAPITAL, which means that it’s meant to develop industry, build businesses, create jobs, and accumulate into massive amounts of generational wealth."
Reactionary Capitalist Roader.
60 posted on 08/01/2015 9:07:10 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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