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Russian Submarine Wreck Found in Sweden’s Territorial Waters
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12943.19.0.0/world/military/russian-submarine-wreck-found-in-swedens-territorial-waters ^ | July 27, 2015

Posted on 07/27/2015 12:45:04 PM PDT by Thistooshallpass9

A wrecked mini-submarine was found last week in waters off of Sweden’s eastern coast, media in Sweden reported on July 27. Authorities believe it is a Russian model, primarily because of Cyrillic letters on the hull. They have not disclosed the exact location of the wreckage, but say it is around 1.5 nautical miles from the Swedish coast.

“We are 110 percent sure that it is within Swedish waters” said Dennis Åsberg, a member of Ocean X Team which made the discovery.

Reports say the sub is some 60 feet long and 10 feet wide, and holds a crew of three to six men.

Since the hatches are unopened, experts believe the crew perished inside the vessel sometime after it crashed. “The submarine is completely intact, has no visible damage to the hull and the hatches are closed. Therefore do we fear that the crew members were not able to save themselves when the sub went down,” said Ocean X diver Stefan Hogeborn.

Security consultants say the submarine has not been crashed long, and speculate that it was part of an unsuccessful secret test or mission. “I imagine it has been tested and failed,” said security consultant Joakim von Braun.

The report comes during a time of increasingly provocative behavior from Russia toward Sweden. In September, Russian fighter jets crossed into Sweden’s airspace. Shortly after, a Russian military aircraft with its transponder switched off flew dangerously near to a commercial jet in the south of Sweden. Sweden also says Russian naval forces entered its waters last fall, which prompted a sub hunt that became Sweden’s most involved military operation since the Cold War. Last week, Russia warned that if Sweden joins nato, Russia would “have to resort to a response of the military kind.”


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: russian; submarine; sweden
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To: MeganC

That is what I was thinking...exactly..


21 posted on 07/27/2015 1:15:26 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Thistooshallpass9
Fishing boat captain says a Russian submarine lurking in U.K. waters snagged his net and nearly dragged him under.
22 posted on 07/27/2015 1:17:12 PM PDT by McGruff (Eat a snickers...)
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To: Thistooshallpass9
Authorities believe it is a Russian model, primarily because of Cyrillic letters on the hull.

Nothing gets by the Swedes.

23 posted on 07/27/2015 1:19:01 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Nothing gets by the Swedes.

Except for Muslims in Malmo.

24 posted on 07/27/2015 1:19:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jewbacca

https://news.vice.com/article/submarines-with-wheels-underwater-blimps-and-a-new-nuclear-arms-race

There ‘is’ precedent for the bizarre you observed, but I don’t have the time to search for it.

At one time they thought the Ekranoplan was a myth (so I read somewhere)...http://www.wired.com/2011/06/ekranoplan/


25 posted on 07/27/2015 1:20:23 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

There was a case some years back where the Swedes started depth-charging the stuffing out of something they had detected in their territorial waters. They did not report that they hit anything.

I can’t remember if it was after 2000, but I think it was after the end of the cold war.


26 posted on 07/27/2015 1:20:37 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

I knew I shoulda took that left turn at Albuquerque.


27 posted on 07/27/2015 1:24:08 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Thistooshallpass9

In the ‘80’s ,my brother-in-law was in the Norwegian navy and they were always finding Soviet subs in the fjords. The policy was just to leave them alone.


28 posted on 07/27/2015 1:25:36 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: BBell

Canned Russian


29 posted on 07/27/2015 1:30:04 PM PDT by wetgundog ("Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is No Vice" -AuH2O)
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To: Crim

One of my favorite Three Stooges episodes.


30 posted on 07/27/2015 1:32:13 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Thistooshallpass9

I suspect there are a lot of Russian subs lying on the bottoms of the oceans of the world.


31 posted on 07/27/2015 1:32:34 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: bjorn14

No stick of dynamite thrown overboard to tell Ivan we see you?


32 posted on 07/27/2015 1:54:59 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
No stick of dynamite thrown overboard to tell Ivan we see you?

There was a thread some time ago about Russian submarines in Swedish waters wherein some Freepers who were familiar with the practice of 'I see you' depth charging said that the common thing to do is toss a hand grenade wrapped in toilet paper over the side, to delay when the spoon flies and get some additional depth. No real danger to the submarine like a full-on depth charge would present, but it gets the point across.

33 posted on 07/27/2015 2:03:17 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: AFreeBird

A body of water near Israel.


34 posted on 07/27/2015 2:17:11 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

Kinda figured, but never hurts to ask. The Med has been the place for lots of funny business for a very long time.


35 posted on 07/27/2015 2:22:12 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Jewbacca
I’ve always assumed it was some kind of Soviet submarine, but I’ve looked for versions on line without ever having success.

I have looked too, it seems that everything is on the Internet- except that.

36 posted on 07/27/2015 2:23:03 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Jewbacca

Well, the Russians had this thing:

“IRM Amphibious Engineer Reconnaissance Vehicle This vehicle was based on the chassis of the BMP-1. It mounts the engine and suspension of the BMP-1 in a new hull. It was designed to undertake a variety of specialized engineer reconnaissance roles including mine detection and river-bottom reconnaissance. For its mine detection role, the IRM has two devices mounted at the front of the vehicle which can be retracted flush with the hull when not in use. The IRM is fully amphibious, propelled in the water by two shrouded propellers at the rear of the vehicle. When submerged, a snorkel is erected on top of the hull; this is kept horizontal when not required.”

Their India class submarines supposedly carried two of these that were modified for seafloor recoveries.


37 posted on 07/27/2015 2:29:11 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: BBell

Photos
http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/frammande-ubat-hittad-i-svenskt-vatten/


38 posted on 07/27/2015 2:51:59 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Boogieman

That may be it.

It was not “torpedo” shaped like a normal submarine.

Flat and more like a flounder than a shark.


39 posted on 07/27/2015 2:56:36 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Riley
"I have looked too, it seems that everything is on the Internet- except that."

Me neither. I know I've seen pictures of caterpillar tracks on the sea floor but I can't find them now.

Although the Swedes seem to have made a welcome sign (see below) which they have lowered into the ocean:

Strangely this picture appeared several times, and I didn't use any of "those" search words.

40 posted on 07/27/2015 2:57:34 PM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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