NRA: Gun blogs, videos, web forums threatened by new Obama regulation

washingtonexaminer ^ | June 7, 2015 | Paul Bedard

[familyop]

Like most of the other attacks against the Second Amendment, it's another class war move against people who don't have much cash flow through government-related means: that is, those in the crushed private sector. People with large incomes don't need to have technical inclinations for repairing or making useful things. They simply buy whatever they need after consulting with "experts" (vendors and the like).

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

...plus government-linked business interests, administrator-class pensioners, NGO heads and more. But remember that big layoffs of government employees and haircuts against pensions are probably in the near future. So it's yet another move against everyone's Second Amendment rights by way of conquer-and-divide tactics. We already see too much of the "I already got mine." rhetoric in discussions.

[itssme]

There's another Mussolini pose that I would like to see obozo display...the one with the late Mussolini and his girlfriend hanging by their ankles from a light post.

[itssme]

No, Don Corleone, We the People must NOT get use to it. We must fight it, any way we can. So, let us all put our heads together with suggestions on how we can all become freedom fighters and deal with this damn enemy. We have some very smart, creative, skilled people on Free Republic, and working together, we can come up with some feasible ideas. It's not enough for us to just read the articles on FR and make commentary afterward. It's the greatest opportunity to work with other like-minded people. It's time to get out of our comfort zones and do something about this, or we will lose big time. Remember all those brave men and women of wars past who fought and died to keep this country free, and all of the hard working people on the home front who did their part in the war effort. Well, it's now our turn to step up and fight the enemy on our soil. What do you all think about this?

[humblegunner]

You also predicted that Hillary wouldn’t run.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3097658/posts?page=11#11

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3097658/posts?page=44#44

Nice spelling there, too.

[familyop]

"Yall techies out there we have to come up with something new to retain communication."

That would be difficult.

Paragraph (b) of the revised definition explicitly sets forth the Department's requirement of authorization to release information into the ''public domain.'' Prior to making available ''technical data'' or software subject to the ITAR, the U.S. government must approve the release through one of the following:...or (4) another U.S. government official with authority to allow the ''technical data'' or software to be made available to the public.

They also would construe it as applying to any means of communication or publishing that works like the Internet. And imagine, for example, a private e-mail list being made "available to the public." And what form of electronic communication is private?

The attacks on human rights (AKA constitutional rights and civil rights) must be stopped. Otherwise, technical knowledge will only be shared within the true technical class: the people feared so much by the bipartisan political class (from rural areas to inner cities), we, who once manufactured most of the things that you use (and will again).

That wouldn't be a good situation for anyone, either, in my opinion. Although every political bandwagon is moving against the constitutional rights of the majority now perceived as peasants, our constitutional rights should be for everyone. Look at the increases in costs of owning firearms--not so much for some, but by outward appearances, insurmountable for others.

We're headed toward a worldwide economic collapse with many causes. All who have designs on controlling others will fall. In the years to come, attacking a technically inclined person or family (builders, those who repair, those who make useful things--all with their own skilled hands) might be like attacking a willow only to find out that it turns into a grinder.

[familyop]

The author of the piece cited this. Maybe it will be helpful for looking into the matter.

“This latest regulatory assault, published in the June 3 issue of the Federal Register,...”
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2015-06-03/pdf/2015-12844.pdf

[familyop]

Here’s something else that you all might be interested in—more of a no-compromise organization.

National Association for Gun Rights
https://www.nationalgunrights.org/

[PapaBear3625]

The NRA article references last Wednesday's federal register, where on page two it has:

The Department proposes to revise the definition of ‘‘technical data’’ in ITAR § 120.10 in order to update and clarify the scope of information that may be captured within the definition. Paragraph (a)(1) of the revised definition defines ‘‘technical data’’ as information ‘‘required’’ for the ‘‘development,’’ ‘‘production,’’ operation, installation, maintenance, repair, overhaul, or refurbishing of a ‘‘defense article,’’ which harmonizes with the definition of ‘‘technology’’ in the EAR and the Wassenaar Arrangement.

§ 120.6 has "Defense article" means any item or technical data designated in § 121.1 of this subchapter."

§ 121.1 , in "Category I" includes rifles, shotguns, and pistols.

This could be applied to technical data on how to create a firearm, and specifically to 3-D printing of firearms. I could see the feds coming down on makers of 3-D printers to include a requirement that all designs for 3-D printing to be either uploaded to the feds by the printer, or that only approved designs be installable on a 3-D printer.

[BigCinBigD]

“Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.”

H. L. Mencken

[PapaBear3625]

See post #48

[familyop]

A scare hoax might also be used as an attempt to influence firearms issues discussion board owners toward making their sites private and subscriber-only. That, even though they would still be publicly available like libraries.

[centurion316]

The language of the ITAR statute applies to export of defense articles and defense services. Interpreting the revised rules requires a review of the original statute and the specific definitions of defense articles. The rule suggests that not all munitions are subject to ITAR.

This is why the lawyers get the big bucks.

[familyop]

The Department proposes to revise the definition of ‘‘technical data’’ in ITAR § 120.10 in order to update and clarify the scope of information that may be captured within the definition. Paragraph (a)(1) of the revised definition defines ‘‘technical data’’ as information ‘‘required’’ for the ‘‘development,’’ ‘‘production,’’ operation, installation, maintenance, repair, overhaul, or refurbishing of a ‘‘defense article,’’ which harmonizes with the definition of ‘‘technology’’ in the EAR and the Wassenaar Arrangement.

§ 120.6 has "Defense article" means any item or technical data designated in § 121.1 of this subchapter."

§ 121.1 , in "Category I" includes rifles, shotguns, and pistols.

Thanks. The "or" means any one of those actions--not necessarily all. That would include "maintenance" of a firearm, for example, and affect publishing and availability of manuals. So would "repair." It would also affect the sales of materials for making firearms and parts, which sales include instructions available from the Internet.

And it would radically raise the costs of many things for people who aren't very technically inclined (technically inclined like the redneck neighbor under the hood of his vehicle down the street, or the unemployed machinist).

[familyop]

Here’s one suggestion. If you might be wanting to download manuals or instructions for maintaining firearms, making your own firearms or parts (for example, so-called “80 percent lowers”) or repairing firearms, download them before the rule goes into effect. Print copies. But if the news is not an exaggeration from the NRA for drumming up more memberships, then lobbying and/or other legal actions or legislation will be required.

[centurion316]

We need to consider that the language of the law and these proposed revisions in rules might mean that anyone who posts on the web a recipe for “shi++ on a shingle” could be committing a federal felony.

[familyop]

"The language of the ITAR statute applies to export of defense articles and defense services. Interpreting the revised rules requires a review of the original statute and the specific definitions of defense articles. The rule suggests that not all munitions are subject to ITAR.

This is why the lawyers get the big bucks."

Thank you.

It's funny in a way, you know. It will manage to drum up even more interest in firearms-related technical pursuits. Hopefully, some of the aspiring manufacturers and mechanics will get good, long lasting equipment instead of the cheap, popular junk we're seeing in the market. Competition is healthy for business and good for the economy (what our old bosses said before the 1980s).

[familyop]

"We need to consider that the language of the law and these proposed revisions in rules might mean that anyone who posts on the web a recipe for 'shi++ on a shingle' could be committing a federal felony."

Like you said, more money for lawyers...that is, until a few million more people are laid off. Then potential chaos here and there.

Political directions over the past 40 years or so are leading to several unintended consequences that are going unseen. Preferred pools of consumers continue to shrink with the economy. It even has much to do with the price of eggs.

[Biggirl]

Yet Hillary is crashing and burning with each passing day.

Plus “no big deal” on the spelling. Relax a little will you PLEASE. Thank-you.

[Forty-Niner]

I grew up ~ 1 mile from the San Marino home of G S Patton (its just down the street from the Hunting Library/Estate) Know quite a lot about him as a local hero although San Marino has been overtaken by immigrant Chinese. Patten would be rolling over in his grave if he were alive today to see what has become of SoCal............(I left and live in NorCal now)

[arthurus]

I wasn’t thinking so much about tech info, though that is probably even more important, but about just contact and keeping up to date, like with FR and political action. All of this stuff is bit by bit going to be banned from the net as pernicious content, or even as “false” content like true facts and surmises about AGW and the like, or dissemination about news of the area by area banning of fracking or whatever. How do we sidestep the net? I suppose systems will arise like somehow piggybacking on cell phone systems or such but it needs to be something known to the government that the government can’t shut down. It would be necessarily known to the government or it would be too small and limited to be available to most of us. As you can tell I am not tech competent myself. I am a user not a geek. I tried getting into it years ago but could not follow a flow chart.