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To: fella; Travis McGee

The twin peaks indoor video was allegedly released to media who so far won’t release it to public

It shows bikers running inside from gunfire in parking lot

And one biker on patio firing from parking lot

All maybe or not from folks who saw video and waitresses

It’s a morass and cops have walked back a lot

And all contrary witnesses are locked up on crazy charges

So do Texas folks think if cops are told to come for their guns they won’t

This whole thing is discouraging so far

My initial thought of Bandidos teaching class to the rebellious is out the window

It’s a lot of questions and contradictions

And LEO CYA

I HOPE IM WRONG


17 posted on 05/23/2015 12:46:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: wardaddy

I firmly believe, based on what I have evaluated of the info we have, that the bottom line is no order to shoot was given. Perhaps police thought their presence would suppress any need for them to actually DO anything and so no “chain of command” was established and at least one or some of those that ended up dropping hammers thought they were free to do so at their discretion. IMHO, a trained soldier knows that while he has a rifle and ammunition, the opportunity to put them into service at his own discretion is just about nonexistent. What has clearly happened is this: shooting started, probably by a jumpy police shooter who thought he had the authority to make that decision on his own. What happened up to that point is really trivial unless a flood of rounds began impacting on the police. If a Cossack shot at a Bandidos, whatever, I don’t care. They were there, representing themselves and their “issues” about which I care little.

The police, however much we may sarcastically refer to them as “just another gang” we’re not there on their own. As a citizen, they were there (at least austensibly) representing ME. Now we have come to a matter about which I DO care. At the end of the day, I am certain we will find, that the tax dollars of citizens were used to organize, train, and equip people with instruments of lethal force and then essentially released into the environment with minimal direction and no rational protocol for command and control and that, once panicked, took the initiative to begin the wholesale business of taking lives. Again, see if any order to shoot was given. I highly doubt it. How long did the shooting go on? I will bet that it lasted until some one realized that they were witness to a Charlie Foxtrot and then remembered that it was THEIR CF because they were “in charge”. Everything that has happened since affirms the high probability in my mind that I have it about right. Now the police have reacted predictably as the guilty party trying to obfuscate and avoid responsibility.

When the leadership of our country becomes lawless then everything that happens is suspect. When our Taxdollars turn into dead citizens in the absence of any evidence of a crime, much less a capital crime, we had all damn well better have an interest. Police with the latest battle gear and no combat training on American soil are the nightmare the Founders warned us about and tried to prevent. Now here we are.


20 posted on 05/23/2015 3:59:52 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wardaddy

This comment posted on another thread is more credible to me than the official Waco PD spin.

“WELL the British PRESS have already discovered the FIGHT started by a POLICE GANG DETECTIVE,who was wearing club colors he didn’t belong in,and when he was cornered in the bathrooms,HE STARTED SHOOTING,and when the other bikers FLED into the parking lot the BIGGEST GANG IN AMERICA WAS WAITING,…TO KILL THEM…..this is the future of ALL THE EX-MILITARY,you guys better wake up,THEY FULLY INTEND TO KILL ALL OF YOU,just like hitler did,BIKERS FIRST,everyone else NEXT…..the ADOLF HITLER PLAY BOOK,in action…….”


21 posted on 05/23/2015 6:14:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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