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Man shot, killed by police on Westside (Jacksonville, Florida)
WJXT-TV ^ | May 12, 2015 | Vic Micolucci, General assignment reporter

Posted on 05/12/2015 3:18:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: dragnet2

The gun had just been poked into the chest of one of the policemen. Then the guy ran away and down the stairs - before hesitating and starting to turn after creating some distance. It does not surprise me that in this situation they lost track of the gun.

In addition to the two police officers there were two maintenance people in the immediate area.

Press conference was held a while ago in which these were addressed.


21 posted on 05/12/2015 6:13:19 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: cyn

That’s what the cops said. But the fact remains, according to the cop boss in Jacksonville, the suspect was unarmed when shot dead.

Seems odd, according to the cops the suspect dropped a gun at the top of the the stairs and ran down the stairs and gets shot to death by cops who were apparently at or near the top of the stairs where the suspects gun is allegedly laying on the floor. How did they not see the gun?

Who knows at this point.

But again, what seems to be clear is at the time of the shooting the cops shot the suspect to death without seeing a weapon in his hands.

If you’re going to shoot someone running away, it’s not advisable to simply assume they’re armed and attempting to kill you.


22 posted on 05/12/2015 6:38:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ColdOne

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23 posted on 05/12/2015 6:49:09 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another who never did nuffin.


24 posted on 05/12/2015 6:51:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dragnet2

He had just committed assault with a deadly weapon. I don’t see the issue with the shooting.


25 posted on 05/13/2015 1:38:15 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dragnet2
It seems you’re attempting to make me the story or issue here. I had nothing to do with the outcome here. I only clarified the suspect was unarmed when shot to death, as a poster mistakenly thought differently. I have no idea what the cops were thinking here. Based on the reports, the only thing which appears clear is the cops shot the suspect to death before seeing a weapon in the suspects hand. You might not understand, but cops are supposed to be trained to look at a suspects hands for weapons, before shooting.

First off I was a Police Officer. So I know what I was supposed to be trained to look at.

How fast do you think things were going in that house when someone shoved a gun into your chest and pulled the trigger? Than takes off running down a hallway for the stairs (which may have one half burned out light blub in it). He hits the stairs at full speed and and is probably only hitting every 2nd or 3rd tread on the way down.
Then he gets to the bottom just as you and your Partner reach the top. Your both screaming at him the whole time. Police STOP. POLICE STOOOPPPP. He gets to the bottom and starts turning.
You've got your gun on him and your not waiting for him to get a second chance to kill you. BOOM.GET ON THEGROUND BOOMBOOMBOOM. Then you scream into your radio 'Shots Fired ---- Man down'.

Run that through your head at 5x speed with your life on the line.

Think about it; He shoved a gun into one of the Officers chest and tried to kill that Officer. But failed.
He ran into a stairway and dropped the gun (what was the lighting like?).
The Police chased him.
The Police ran passed the gun he dropped (did they see the fallen gun?).
The dead guy got to the bottom of the stairs and started to turn back towards the Police.
The Police shot and killed him (did they believe he was still armed or did they, seeing the gun on the floor - think he might have another gun on him?).

Ed

26 posted on 05/13/2015 4:34:15 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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I only clarified here the suspect was unarmed when shot to death, as a poster mistakenly thought differently.

I have no idea what the cops were thinking here. Based on the reports, the only thing which appears clear is the cops shot the suspect to death before seeing a weapon in the suspects hand.

You might not understand, but cops are supposed to be trained to look at a suspects hands for weapons, before shooting.

First off I was a Police Officer. So I know what I was supposed to be trained to look at.

Very commendable. So you should have been trained for this too.

How fast do you think things were going in that house when someone shoved a gun into your chest and pulled the trigger?

Did I not say I have no idea what the cops were thinking. I have no idea what they saw or why they shot an unarmed man.

BTW, you have a very large imagination. I like the bit about the light bulbs and how the suspect ran on stairs.

However my comments were regarding the incident as reported here. Not pure speculation and imagination.

27 posted on 05/14/2015 8:38:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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