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Indiana “Cowardly” Republican Governor Backs Down, Christians Lose, Gay Activists Win
Last Days Watchman ^ | Julio Severo

Posted on 04/05/2015 8:57:52 PM PDT by juliosevero

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1 posted on 04/05/2015 8:57:52 PM PDT by juliosevero
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What if the bakers crumbled communion wafers into the batter and said a prayer over the cake for the homos’ conversions?

And then served it up with a gentle, knowing smile?


2 posted on 04/05/2015 9:17:22 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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Everyone that the Left has attacked except Phil Robertson, and he is not even a politician has backed down. That is when you lose. Never ever back down from the Left.
3 posted on 04/05/2015 9:21:39 PM PDT by sport
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Governor Pence, you are cowardly piece of Sh*t!

It would’ve been better if you never signed this law into being. Now you look like the Left’s Bit*h!

We are surrounded by cowards!


4 posted on 04/05/2015 9:22:48 PM PDT by Artcore
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Or blessed it with some holy spit.

Personally I would not want to order any food from someone who doesn’t like me or what I’m about to do.


5 posted on 04/05/2015 9:28:25 PM PDT by aquila48
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From hero to zero.


6 posted on 04/05/2015 9:32:55 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If attacked by a mob of clowns go for the juggler.)
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To: aquila48

They enjoy the angst and attention.

What if everyone treated them like 3 years olds, throwing a tantrum, and ignored them?

How long would their tirades last?

Going further with your idea, what if Christian bakers starting joyously handing over cakes, with really creepy smiles on their faces?

:D


7 posted on 04/05/2015 9:34:08 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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White Cake w/Chocolate Exlax frosting..and candles, mustn't forget them.

8 posted on 04/05/2015 9:45:21 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass ("Any girl can be glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid." Hedy Lamarr)
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Food tampering is very bad, no matter the cause.

Sell nice, blessed cakes...add extremely creepy smiles.

Paranoia is a powerful thing.


9 posted on 04/05/2015 9:48:46 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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[[and facing the threat of big stores and factories leaving Indiana, its Republican governor,]]

Shame, He could have invited other big businesses who had better morals into his state to conduct business, perhaps even giving them tax breaks to encourage them to move to his state and fill the welcomed hole left by the departing sin loving businesses

Christian owned big businesses should call him up and threaten to leave his state!


10 posted on 04/05/2015 9:51:07 PM PDT by Bob434
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doesn’;t have to be ‘tampered with’ it could have “Rexlax and enjoy your day” written on it and if anyone complained about exlax being ‘snuck into the cake’ you could say “It wasn’t snuck in, We advertised it as having exlax in it, we just misspelled it by accident is all”


11 posted on 04/05/2015 9:53:21 PM PDT by Bob434
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The power of suggestion is not something you can sue over.

ExLax in your food is.

:)


12 posted on 04/05/2015 9:58:19 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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What would your ‘sworn enemy’ think, if you suddenly, gleefully, -wanted- to make his food?

Practically *begged* to be the one to feed him?

Were it me, I’d run the other way as fast as I could.


13 posted on 04/05/2015 10:01:09 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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What the original Indiana religious freedom law did imo was to help prevent the state from violating Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (14A).
14th Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Note that the “privileges or immunities” term which John Bingham, the main author of Section 1, used in that section is just another way to refer to constitutionally enumerated rights, most of these well-known rights, including 1st Amendment-protected freedom of religious expression, listed in the Bill of Rights.

So with or without the Indiana religious freedom law, the constitutional religious freedoms of Indiana citizens, including business owners, are protected from their state government by 14A, and therefor from people who would otherwise be customers if as customers they respected the religious convictions of business owners imo.

The problem, as we’ve been seeing in other states, is that the Constitution cannot protect citizens if citizens don’t know their constitutional protections, especially since legal counsel may not know constitutional protections any better than business owners do; the blind leading the blind.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if low-information state officials in the pro-gay activist states who have been giving Christian business owners problems are unaware that 14A exists.

Insights, corrections welcome.

14 posted on 04/05/2015 10:10:29 PM PDT by Amendment10
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I doubt it was the “gays” who voted him in. It’s the very people he’s screwing over who voted his worthless carcass in. I hope he gets what’s coming to him.


15 posted on 04/05/2015 10:15:12 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Gringa for Cruz 2016!)
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neither is l sited ingredients


16 posted on 04/05/2015 10:29:11 PM PDT by Bob434
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[[if as customers they respected the religious convictions of business owners imo.]]

And that is the key to this- You can NOT walk into a Jewish deli, or a muslim shop or any shop where the owners and employees hold religious beliefs and DEMAND that they violate their religious convictions-

However, Gay people are declaring that shop owner’s religious convictions amou8nt to discrimination along the lines of racism where a religious person could declare their religion forbids them from serving black folks- they are declaring that these shops are discriminating against a ‘class of people’ (ie gay people) if they should refuse to cater a wedding for them- however, being gay is not an ethnicity- it is a sinful lifestyle CHOICE that a person makes- IF it were not sinful and it were not a choice, but something they were born with and could not help- then that would be a different story- but it isn’t- it is a sinful CHOICE, just like pedophilia is a sinful choice, polygamy is, bestiality is etc etc etc, and a store owner no sooner has to pander to a pedophile demanding they cater their celebrating pedophilia than they do to a gay person demanding that they cater the gay wedding-

these types of sins are lifestyle CHOICES that people make, and as such they should own up to their SINFUL choices and take the consequences of that choice (ie: their lifestyle NOT being accepted by those who object based on biblical truths) and stop demanding that others accept it and cater to it-

As people, they have rights- but their lifestyle CHOICES do NOT have rights no more so than a pedophile’s lifestyle CHOICE is protected- this is a cold hard fact that these particular brand of sinners do NOT wish to accept- they don’t wish to accept responsibility for their sinful choice- and they want to force acceptance of their sinful choice and for their sinful choice to be protected udner the constitution and via court mandate-


17 posted on 04/05/2015 10:46:27 PM PDT by Bob434
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[[neither is l sited ingredients]]

Egads that was horrible- I meant- neither is listed ingredients


18 posted on 04/05/2015 10:47:12 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Amendment10
Note that the “privileges or immunities” term which John Bingham, the main author of Section 1, used in that section is just another way to refer to constitutionally enumerated rights, most of these well-known rights, including 1st Amendment-protected freedom of religious expression, listed in the Bill of Rights.

This is incorrect. The 14th Amendment deals only with incorporated privileges - not the natural human Rights addressed by the original Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Two completely different animals. That's why the 14A actually says "privileges" and not "rights" - because that's exactly the difference it means.

And as for immunities, they refer to such immunities which are enjoyed by government officers in the employ of their work as government officers. Again, no rights enter the subject, and no rights are referenced by the 14A.

19 posted on 04/05/2015 11:06:35 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Pence can literally go f@ck himself.

Coward is dead to me forever.


20 posted on 04/05/2015 11:19:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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