Climate change is a farce and the Obamas just proved it

Flopping Aces ^ | 03-14-15 | DrJohn

[Starman417]

One gallon of jet fuel burned creates about 19 pounds of C02. A 747 burns about 25,000 pounds of fuel per hour. A round trip from Washington DC to LA would take about 11- 11 1/2 hours. That comes to about 287,000 pounds of fuel. And that results in the production of about 5,462,500 pounds of CO2.

A 757 burns about 6,000 pounds of jet fuel per hour. A similar round trip to LA would burn about 69,000 pounds of fuel and create about 1,310,000 pounds of CO2.

Barack Obama and Michelle Obama both traveled to Los Angeles on the same day on separate aircraft for something of grave importance- appearances on talk shows.

Barack Obama flew out to LA and appeared on Jimmy Kimmel.

Michelle Obama took a separate aircraft to LA and appeared on "Ellen."

When asked about this

White House deputy press secretary Eric Schultz told reporters Friday that the president and first lady’s “schedules were not in sync in order to travel together.”

“I’m not even sure they overlapped,” he said when asked if the president and first lady saw each other in southern California Thursday.

In order to pin the cost of his frivolity on the US taxpayer Obama made a cameo appearance at a VA hospital in Phoenix that has been the subject of much attention.

Together they spewed 6,773,500 pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere for completely unserious reasons.

Let's consider the excuses offered for this excess pollution.

[Raycpa]

There is every need to exaggerate the points. Without exageration there is no crisis. Without a crisis there is no need to control your use of fuel and no world government to do so.

[VTenigma]

Stoichiometric fuel /air ratio is about 13.7 to 1 ( if I remember correctly.

[xzins]

It’s been 50 years or so, but still, there’s something that isn’t adding up for me in the believability department, even after the atomic weight explanations.

I start with a few beans and I end up with a giant’s castle. :>)

[xzins]

Based on this:

2 C8H18 + 25 O2 → 16 CO2 + 18 H2O

Why don't I get 8 CO2's for each C8H18's?

And Wikipedia is saying: "1 kg of fuel reacts with 3.51 kg of oxygen to produce 3.09 kg of carbon dioxide and 1.42 kg of water." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline

So, it's saying "1 produces 3.09", and not "1 produces 19"

[DesertRhino]

CO2 doesn’t weigh anything anyway,,,, this is retarded.

[marktwain]

"Based on this: 2 C8H18 + 25 O2 → 16 CO2 + 18 H2O

Why don't I get 8 CO2's for each C8H18's? "

You do. 2 X C8H18 goes to 16 CO2. That is 8 CO2 for each C8H18.

[Morpheus2009]

You know, has anyone bothered teleconferencing to talk about climate change? I mean even simpletons like myself can amass a large group of 4 or more parties computers with camera recorders and speakers chatting on a google plus hangout or skype video chat and the bigwigs don’t try their own equivalent of it? What are they living in, the 90s?

[sauropod]

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[Morpheus2009]

Put in mind, all that internet and computer power I use on a chat emits less CO2 than a trip across the nation to LA by a jet aircraft.

[Night Hides Not]

Aren’t those emissions carbon monoxide, rather than carbon dioxide?

[xzins]

So one unit of gasoline results in 8 units of co2 or something like that, but then it goes on to say that one unit results in 3.09. The article about fuel, though, says that 1 results in 19.

I am thoroughly and completely bumfuzzled now.

[Morpheus2009]

I know, right? Even my wife and myself fly on the same plane when we’re going to the same city. The Obamas are worth more, and love to spend way more than my wife and I can afford, though!

[1_Rain_Drop]

"How does one gallon of fuel which weighs about 8 lbs create 19 pounds of gas?"

Easy. Basic logic. This measurement is for the plane moochelle was in.

[houeto]

FTA: "One gallon of jet fuel burned creates about 19 pounds of C02."

Absolutely ridiculous!

[TBP]

Of course it is. Next.

[concernedcitizen76]

Re: “Together they spewed 6,773,500 pounds of CO2 into the atmosphere for completely unserious reasons. Let’s consider the excuses offered for this excess pollution.”

Josh Earnest will chortle, “Tut, tut, water vapor and clouds, not CO2, is the number one pollutant responsible for 70% of global warming, Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.”

[BitWielder1]

So, it's saying "1 produces 3.09", and not "1 produces 19"

1 pound of fuel produces 3.09 pounds of CO2.

Jet fuel weighs between 6.46 - 7 pounds per gallon.

So:
1 gallon of fuel = 6.46 - 7 pounds, burns to produce 19.96 - 21.63 pounds of CO2, if we use these numbers.
Jet fuel is a mixture, the exact composition and density can vary.


(A correction: Oxygen atomic weight is 16, not 18 as I stated earlier.)

[4Speed]

A similar round trip to LA would burn about 69,000 pounds of fuel and create about 1,310,000 pounds of CO2.

So, Carbon by itself existed, so did Oxygen, but as it says in the above, the flight “created” CO2 where none existed.

[4Speed]

Its in the article itself, if you follow the links and comments....excerpt below

The carbon has a mass of 12 and makes up a certain percentage of the jet fuel mass (you can find out using science you learned in 9th grade)
Oxygen has a mass of 16
Since there are 2 oxygen atoms for every carbon atom in CO2. That means the ratio of mass between those is 12 : 32
So if you burn 12 grams of carbon. You end up with 44 grams of CO2. Does it make sense?

there are about a little more than 2x as many hydrogen atoms as carbon atoms in jet fuel. But since hydrogen weighs only 1 amu. the ratio of mass between carbon and hydrogen in the jet fuel is 12 : 2

the hydrogen reacts with air to produce water
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[Campion]

The author is confusing *gallons* of fuel with *pounds* of fuel. One pound of fuel results in about 3 pounds of CO2. That means that 69000 pounds results in about 207,000 pounds of CO2, not the 1000000+ number the author came up with, which seems to approximately correct for 69000 *gallons* of fuel (one gallon is about 7 pounds, so generates about 21 pounds of CO2).