The Most Common Defensive Shootings That go Unreported

Gun Watch ^ | 2 March, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

An enormous number of defensive shootings are not included in the data about defensive gun use.  These are the shootings of animals, not in defense of people; those are often reported.  No, they are defensive shootings of animals in defense of other animals, and often crops or other property.  In defense of animals, the species most often shot are dogs.

There are occasional cries of outrage when someone has to shoot a dog in order to save another animal.  They usually come from people who have no conception of reality outside their apartment or suburban home.  These people seem to live in a bubble where, in their mind, dogs never do anything wrong, and they should always live wonderful lives where someone else has to pay for their owner's irresponsibility, and the damages the dogs cause.

People do not like to shoot dogs.  People do not like to pay taxes or get up every morning and go to work.  People do these things because they need to be done.  Here are some examples of dogs that were shot by people who had to.  They never made the news; they only came to my attention because responsible people tried to educate naive folks who seem to believe that the world is, or can be, perfect.

From CoosaTotah at Ammoland:

I am a disabled veteran. I held eight military occupational skills, one of which was animal technician(91T). One of my overseas stations was in Vietnam were I was with the Dog training Detachment in Bien Hoa and later at the 936th Veterinary Hospital. Dogs are my life. My username is the name of one of my service dogs that past away about three years ago at 14 years of age. I had him since he was 2 months old.

On the fourth of January a dog, a pit bull, jumped my 5 foot fence and attacked one of my goats. I walked right up to my goat and the dog and shined my flashlight right into the dog’s face. He refused to let go of my goat. He kept trying to pull the goat in an opposite direction away from me. I did not know the dog. I did not want to kick or hit the dog because I could become the victim of the dog’s attack. I was left with one option. I drew my firearm and shot the dog at point blank range. I did not want to do it. I did everything except coming directly between the dog and the object of his attack, my goat. It had to be done to save my goat and protect myself. A police report was filed.

Within less than a minute after I shot a truck pulls into my yard. Apparently they saw my flashlight shining around the goat pasture. A man got out and asked “have you seen a dog”. He said it was his wife’s dog and she had just let the dog out to do it’s business. A pet, a house dog. And now it was dead because outside of it’s home it had become an aggressive, ferocious animal intent on killing livestock.

If only they had come just 60 seconds sooner. I did not like shooting the dog. I have had many dogs wonder through my place. I have had a few that even challenged me and I would put my hand on my firearm, but, they would finally run off and I would relax. But, this is the first one that I was forced to shoot. Why couldn’t the owners have shown up just 60 seconds prior? I saw many bullet and explosive wounds in Vietnam and other places. I can still see the bullet wounds, and the fatal wound on this dog. A forever mental picture that I can not get rid of.

From neal kluba:

 When I was a kid my dad was also placed in this position as well. We, however, did lose one calf and had a cow get her leg pretty torn up as well. I remember dad crying as he is a dog lover as well, My prayers go out to this poor guy.

 From USocnom thedailymail.co.uk:

My Aunt and Uncle run a large Dairy Farm in Wisconsin. They lost 2 calves and a goat that had to be put down to the attack by their neighbors dogs. 3 mix breed labs. The county took them did there test and gave them back. 3 days later 63 stitches to my Aunts horse. One was dead and other ones taken and liquidated. This was 3 year ago. They are still fighting for reimbursement for damages caused by their dogs. Keep your dogs under control or this happens.

From SoCalApril:

I love animals more than people - however - has anyone ever seen a dog attack farm animals??? Ever seen a dog eat a chicken alive, or worse yet, two dogs attack a cow or calf??? I doubt it, because if you had, you would ASK someone to shoot the dogs - imagine the sound that a normal cow or calf make, now picture two dogs eating that animal from the hoof up, it is horrifying, and NO it isn't like you can run up and shoo away two dogs in the middle of an attack. And yes - labs do attack. These dogs are dead because of the owner that doesn't care if other animals die over his lack of fencing.

These are the stories that do not make the news. They do not because no law was broken by the shooters. At most, it is a civil matter that no one thinks worth reporting, and no one puts pictures of the aftermath on a Facebook post.

But, they are very, very, common. People in rural areas are far more likely to shoot animals in defense of other animals or of property than they are likely to even brandish a firearm at another person. There are few people in rural areas who will not tell you of shooting animals for defense of other animals or of their property.

None of these shootings are counted in the totals of defensive uses of firearms in the surveys. If they were, the defensive use statistics would be many millions more per year.

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[snoringbear]

Abandoned dogs running loose have become a big problem for sure. But, here in Texas, gotta put ferrel hogs right up at the top too.

[riverrunner]

Just as with feral children mothers can’t believe or will not admit that there child did the crime. Many dog owners are in denial about their pets.

[Yo-Yo]

I shot a rabid raccoon once. Does that count?

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

In central and South America, stray and feral dogs, especially in packs, are seen as such a threat that itinerant dog killers have long been hired to get rid of them.

They used to use wagons, but now they use trucks, with empty 55 gallon drums in the back. They would show up in town, ask the local government if it needed their services, and gave them a list of things to provide if they did, along with their payment for the service.

The town would provide spoiled or tainted meat, poison, and materials to make signs he would post around town, informing the people that on a given night, they should keep their dogs inside.

After soaking the meat in one of the barrels for a day, at night the dog killer would lay out piles of the meat, marking each one. Then the dogs would come, eat the meat and die within yards of of the pile. Then the dog killer would collect any leftover meat and the dead dogs, and take them to the town dump, all before dawn.

The emotional toll on the dog killers is great, and as you might suspect, they are socially shunned, so lead lonely lives.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***A pet, a house dog. And now it was dead because outside of it’s home it had become an aggressive, ferocious animal intent on killing livestock.***

I had to do the same with two dogs many years ago. The owner was livid! His dogs escaped his house, traveled almost a mile and attacked and killed my children’s pet right in our doorway.

I’ve had to do the same to others in the past. If such strays are friendly and have collars with tags I notify the owner and don’t shoot.

[roofgoat]

Obsessed Dog Lovers are the biggest pain in the a$&$&& today. When CW2 starts, they are about 6th on my list.

[marktwain]

Yes.