Posted on 02/15/2015 9:08:46 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
Using Agitprop and elements of the Delphi propaganda method (3), lethal Home Owners Associations (HOAs) are moving north out of huge Miami-Fort Lauderdale territories up along Florida’s I-95 corridor to take over more and more personal property rights of unsuspecting homeowners in gated, HOA communities. And the effects are not pretty! “Resetting the default position. . .exploits the structure of the choice to encourage a more desirable option,” says Cass R. Sunstein, author of the book NUDGE. (1) Employed by the Obama Administration as a regulatory czar, it was Sunstein’s job to have the American people do what the government wanted them to do, all the while believing it was actually their own idea!
A heuristic is a term applied to getting a student or other type of governmental human unit to do what government wants them to do by programing certain choices involving quick decisions and empirical thought processes rather than theory based decision. Most conservatives should be quite aware of the United Nations inspired Agenda 21, Seven/50 attempts to take over private property of unsuspecting Americans. ”Choice Architecture,” a devastating term developed by Sunstein and co-author Richard Thaler, is defined this way: “…If you want a person to reach a desirable outcome and you can’t change the heuristic she’s following, then you have to meddle with the choice architecture, setting up one that when matched with the given heuristic delivers the desirable (for govt) outcome,” writes the former Obama czar. (2) Nudging HOA residents along the path of cessation of private property rights plays into big government agendas!
Remnants of Agenda 21 are destroying the peace of neighborhoods and towns in South Florida. All along the coast, citizens and local governments are being traumatized by the All Aboard Florida project that seeks to run at least 32 trains...
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Actually, that's not necessarily true. They are typically non-profit corporations at the state level, but very few HOAs qualify as non-profit corporations at the Federal level -- and this is subject to ongoing review by the IRS. In order to be a true non-profit corporation, an HOA has to demonstrate that its common elements offer a tangible benefit to the public at large (not just the owners). HOAs that meet this description will usually have public streets, sidewalks and even playgrounds. Usually this isn't a good idea because it pretty much eliminates the whole purpose of having an HOA in the first place.
UN Agenda 21 ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)
When *you* buy into the HOA *you* agree to sign over that power to them.
This sounds like good advice, but I can't picture exactly what comprises the "somethings" an owner could claim for. Could you give a couple of examples? I'd appreciate it, since like many people, I can't wait to be able to move to a red state.
You said “once you pay for the right to have your property value protected”.
So we agree and I read more of a guarantee than you meant.
yes, the right to have it protected....but no guarantee that the protection will work, or to what extent it will work. You read something into the meaning that I did not WRITE into the meaning.
And again, the word GUARANTEE - was only used by you, not me. So I dont’ know why you are pushing this. Even if I had said guarantee, I would clarify with the drop dead gun analogy I used earlier, and it is clarifying.
That’s easy. They don’t read it before they sign it.
My last real estate closing took almost 3 hours because I read each and every document carefully before signing it (after having read and edited the draft documents).
Everyone at the table was irritated with me except my wife who already knew law at I was going to do.
“Can you speed it up, we only scheduled an hour for this closing and we have others scheduled today” was said several times. No one, real estate agent, title company rep, seller’s attorney, etc., expected me to actually READ the documents before signing them. I ended up finding and correcting two minor errors and one major error in the closing docs.
However, I got the distinct impression most people do not read all the paperwork before signing it.
I have had similar experiences with auto loans, construction contracts and even my kids’ school permission slips. A lot of people simply do it take the time to read things before they sign on the dotted line.
No, not analogy fail.
You stated that HOAs have NOTHING to do with government. You were wrong, and you are STILL wrong if you still believe it to be true.
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“I can’t imagine living in a neighborhood where my neighbors can tell me what color to paint my house.”
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That can happen in neighborhood designated “Historical”, not just HOAs or condos.
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There is a libertarian school of thought that life would be splendid if contracts governed our every interaction, mostly I think it’s the libertarian lawyers who think this. Personally I think it would end quickly in gridlock, tears, and invasion.
I was addressing power at a more basic level.
Without the complicity of state and local governments, HOAs could not exercise anywhere near as much power over private property as they do.
If they had to rely on me to provide them with power they would shrivel and die. I would rather live free on property with depressed value and a trailer park on either side than submit to the whims of another layer of intrusive government.
There’s an old neighborhood that I love, many friends there, good memories, great old houses. I’d live there in a heartbeat if it weren’t for two things, the special tax assessment for the historical district and the very heavy handed behavior of the historical association, sneaking into backyards taking pictures and such. Never would I voluntarily subject myself to that sort of control. Too bad, I’d have been a good steward of one of those properties.
You and me both, brother.
>>Our HOA community is over 90% republican.<<
Your using the fact that your neighborhood is 90% Republican to prove what exactly, that they are conservative? Because Republican and Conservative don’t go together my FRiend.
Either way I have no dog in this hunt, I live out in the woods where there are no neighborhoods, thank God.
An.existing utility easement which was legally recorded but is not shown on the property plat is one example. The associated costs could range from nothing, to having to relocate driveways and/or buildings.
Yes...classic line from that episode. Scully and Mulder are bantering back and forth about keeping up appearances as spouses, and Scully mockingly says something like, “Make me feel like a woman,” to which Mulder replies, “Get me a sammich.” :-)
The regulations you posted are very similar to an HOA, but less intrusitve in the sense that they do not provide for a routine "architectural review committee" that patrols looking for irregularities in the buildings. It also provides a way for locals to make an anonymous complaint; presumably this is the way problems come to the township's attention.
In these days of Political Correctness, however, even common sense offends many people, and it's easy to see how a cabal of liberals could start objecting to the flying of American flags, the display of Christmas decorations or similar hot-button issues. This is not the country we once knew. It's a fascist/communist state where avoiding political persecutions is almost a matter of the luck of the draw. I got told here in Maryland to take down the American flag I had put in my front window on 9/11 and which had been up, at that time, for 11 years. Since our HOA has no control over the inside of our dwellings, a lawyer friend wrote a letter telling them where to get off, and nothing more was said. But in cases where persecutions do take place over MIA flags, Marine Corps flags, flagpoles, etc., the following provision from the document you linked above can be truly draconian, and can cost people outrageous amounts to maintain their pride in being a traditional American — those bitter clingers the fascisti want to get rid of.
Penalties
Any person convicted of a violation of the Property Maintenance Law may be punished by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by imprisonment not to exceed one (1) year, or both, for each violation. Each day that the violation continues constitutes a separate offense, and the penalties above are applicable to each offense.
Perhaps they build them because people want them?
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They build them to maintain control while they build out the subdivision ,, typically when the developer gets down to 51% of voting ownership they introduce a change to the subd. plans ,, cancel a park or two that buyers were counting on ,, cancel a community pool... That sort of fraudulent behavior.
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