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Home Owner Associations robbing people of their rights, their savings and their homes
Coach is Right ^ | 2/15/15 | Suzanne Eovaldi

Posted on 02/15/2015 9:08:46 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

Using Agitprop and elements of the Delphi propaganda method (3), lethal Home Owners Associations (HOAs) are moving north out of huge Miami-Fort Lauderdale territories up along Florida’s I-95 corridor to take over more and more personal property rights of unsuspecting homeowners in gated, HOA communities. And the effects are not pretty! “Resetting the default position. . .exploits the structure of the choice to encourage a more desirable option,” says Cass R. Sunstein, author of the book NUDGE. (1) Employed by the Obama Administration as a regulatory czar, it was Sunstein’s job to have the American people do what the government wanted them to do, all the while believing it was actually their own idea!

A heuristic is a term applied to getting a student or other type of governmental human unit to do what government wants them to do by programing certain choices involving quick decisions and empirical thought processes rather than theory based decision. Most conservatives should be quite aware of the United Nations inspired Agenda 21, Seven/50 attempts to take over private property of unsuspecting Americans. ”Choice Architecture,” a devastating term developed by Sunstein and co-author Richard Thaler, is defined this way: “…If you want a person to reach a desirable outcome and you can’t change the heuristic she’s following, then you have to meddle with the choice architecture, setting up one that when matched with the given heuristic delivers the desirable (for govt) outcome,” writes the former Obama czar. (2) Nudging HOA residents along the path of cessation of private property rights plays into big government agendas!

Remnants of Agenda 21 are destroying the peace of neighborhoods and towns in South Florida. All along the coast, citizens and local governments are being traumatized by the All Aboard Florida project that seeks to run at least 32 trains...

(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: agenda21; agitprop; delphi; delphipropaganda; florida; nwo; privateproperty; propertyrights; treasurecoast; un; unitednations
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To: Mr Rogers

The fact that you did not have a problem in a 3 year time frame doesn’t invalidate the notion that it can (and does) happen in many cases.


21 posted on 02/15/2015 9:36:27 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The problem with HOAs is that you can not know the character of same until you are living there, invested. Well, I suppose if you can rent a unit and then query the neighbors. But then, things can change over time, and I’m not only not the busybody type who seeks to surveil his neighbors, but I don’t especially like those who are. It isn’t my preference. But people orders of magnitude more normal than I am may find it to their liking. Even if there were no HOA, I am not a fan of OWNING in that type of clustered, uniform environment. Renting an apartment is fine.


22 posted on 02/15/2015 9:36:43 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Oldpuppymax

If you want to get a good idea of what is was like to live in east germany during the cold war, buy a house in an HOA ruled subdivision.

It’s like buying your own little slice of the socialist surveillance state. But if that is what you want, don’t whine when you get it.


23 posted on 02/15/2015 9:37:06 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I have an HOA in Portland - it works quite well for me....but if you want to use a chemical pesticide on bugs another resident threatens lawsuits. We’ve had a few altercations but overall it works quite well. I think it has helped maintain the value of our investment.

On the other hand, the HOA our Seattle condo - everyone lives in one building - was awful.


24 posted on 02/15/2015 9:39:02 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coups)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Lesson: before you buy, read the title report and all the documents listed in the title report. Consider buying extended title insurance. If the title company overlooked something that costs you, you can make a claim.


25 posted on 02/15/2015 9:40:05 AM PST by matt1234 (Slay the beast.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
with people sacrificing goats in the backyard

HEY! Just because I slaughter chickens, goats, and pigs in my back yard doesn't make this a bad place. ;)

/johnny

26 posted on 02/15/2015 9:43:37 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: The Antiyuppie
you can wind up living next door to someone with a washing machine in the front yard

Gated communities put washing machines in their front yard?

27 posted on 02/15/2015 9:43:42 AM PST by cornelis
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To: Oldpuppymax

Back in the early 70’s when condos were first becoming popular in FlyOver-Country, I bought a townhouse in a development that was being converted from apartments to condos.

We had the first developer/homeowners meeting and I got chosen as president. Served two years. More than 50% of the homeowners were upset with me for enforcing one rule or another (”why can’t I have more than the standard two reserved parking spaces?”, etc.). The HOA board had to hire a lawyer to force homeowners to pay their fair allotment for maintenance and repairs.

I was very glad when the two years was up. My first, last and only experience with a HOA.


28 posted on 02/15/2015 9:43:42 AM PST by upchuck (Entrenched incumbency is the disease. Fresh blood is the cure.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Back in the early 70’s when condos were first becoming popular in FlyOver-Country, I bought a townhouse in a development that was being converted from apartments to condos.

We had the first developer/homeowners meeting and I got chosen as president. Served two years. More than 50% of the homeowners were upset with me for enforcing one rule or another (”why can’t I have more than the standard two reserved parking spaces?”, etc.). The HOA board had to hire a lawyer to force homeowners to pay their fair allotment for maintenance and repairs.

I was very glad when the two years was up. My first, last and only experience with a HOA.


29 posted on 02/15/2015 9:43:44 AM PST by upchuck (Entrenched incumbency is the disease. Fresh blood is the cure.)
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To: Lorianne
"If enough people don’t do this, developers will not create them because they will not sell houses."

There are too many Democrats and other such stupid people. Good leftists demonstrate their progressive chops by buying houses in HOAs to keep out the riff-raff. They need a helicopter mommy and daddy to tell them how to live, when to mow their lawn, what color to paint their house, what are the proper hobbies.

As long as Leftists need someone to wipe their bottoms, we'll have HOAs.

30 posted on 02/15/2015 9:45:26 AM PST by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted...)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The problem with HOAs and condominiums is that an awful lot of them fall into two opposite ends of the spectrum: (1) overbearing management and governance, and (2) owners on a condominium board who simply don't give a sh!t and allow the property to fall into a state of disrepair.

A business associate of mine spent two years dealing with a situation involving a foreclosure case that was based on a fraudulent lien that had been filed on his property. To be more accurate, there was never a lien on the property. Someone took a lien on a different property and altered it by hand before filing the foreclosure suit against him. He's now suing the condominium association and all of the officers involved in the foreclosure case.

P.S. The foreclosure case went down in flames after the attorney who filed the legal papers on behalf of the association informed the judge in the case that he had retained his own attorney in the matter.

31 posted on 02/15/2015 9:45:55 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: GeronL

That’s the message that I’m getting. No thanks.


32 posted on 02/15/2015 9:47:26 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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To: The Antiyuppie
OTOH, without a HOA, you can wind up living next door to someone with a washing machine in the front yard or with people sacrificing goats in the backyard.
You don't need an HOA to stop idiots from ruining your property value or the quality of your life.
Simple, common sense regulations at the local level will keep most of the scumbags at bay.
33 posted on 02/15/2015 9:49:31 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: kevslisababy

“I live where there is a HOA, and never again.”

I am in my second HOA. Both very pleasurable experiences.


34 posted on 02/15/2015 9:50:10 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Lorianne

” Don’t buy or live in a HOA neighborhood.
If enough people don’t do this, developers will not create them because they will not sell houses.”

Perhaps they build them because people want them?


35 posted on 02/15/2015 9:51:03 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: C. Edmund Wright
On the other hand, it is 100% voluntary to live in an HOA neighborhood - and they do keep odd ball houses from ruining everyone’s property value.

Ding, ding ding! We have a winner.

HOAs are no different from any other level of government. Keep them small and stay involved. We are in one because the house and property were planned that way from the start. There are only 39 homes but they are on acreage in a gorgeous rural setting. I made sure I got elected to the board (of 5) and I frequently talk to my neighbors so they will keep me there. And then I recruited like-minded people to run for the board as well.

This is my ballot statement that gets me reelected every two years:

The last thing any of us needs these days is another layer of rule-making government in our lives. It is my goal in serving on The Board to seek a balance between minimal intrusion in our lives and retaining an attractive neighborhood where we can tastefully personalize our own properties within the guidelines of the original quiet, rural vision for [development name].

36 posted on 02/15/2015 9:52:08 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: cuban leaf

“I can’t imagine living in a neighborhood where my neighbors can tell me what color to paint my house.”

Perhaps people wouldn’t want to live next door to you after you paint your house?


37 posted on 02/15/2015 9:53:42 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
It may vary from place to place, but in the last few years I'm getting an indication that condos and HOAs are losing their appeal in the NYC metro area. There are a lot of towns around me with condo developments under review by their planning and zoning boards, and in the last 18-24 months almost every one of the developers is now coming back to the board to change the approval from a condominium to a rental complex.

These developers are finding that they can't get the financing for the projects if they are built as condominiums.

38 posted on 02/15/2015 9:54:32 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: jonascord

“As long as Leftists need someone to wipe their bottoms, we’ll have HOAs.”

Our HOA community is over 90% republican. It is nice also, to keep the riff-raff like you out.


39 posted on 02/15/2015 9:57:56 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Oldpuppymax

I’m a fan of good fences and reasonable zoning laws, HOA restrictions and amendments just sort of multiply like bunnies, and heaven help you when a board member loses their job or retires and starts viewing the association as their mission.


40 posted on 02/15/2015 9:58:15 AM PST by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spots on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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