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Marijuana destroys Families
2/2/2015 | Rfreedom4u

Posted on 02/02/2015 12:28:23 PM PST by rfreedom4u

My daughter will turn 19 this month. She is our fifth child. She has also been the most worrying to us as she started using drugs a long time ago. She said she first smoked weed at age 12. Since then she has gone on the try many other drugs to include meth, cocaine, pills and LSD and a few others I can’t name. Last year she was in intensive care for 8 days. She has also been in jail about seven or eight times and gone through rehab twice. She is currently living with her mother and I at home but things are getting very tense. She broke up with her boyfriend and says that the stress of breakup makes her want to go get high and chill with her friends. Her friends are not true friends as they are also on drugs. Every time she hangs out with them she stays wasted for a couple days and I had to take her to the ER twice due to overdose on alcohol. Add to all this she has been beat up several times and raped twice that she has admitted to. When you add into this chaos the fact that my wife suffers from a mental illness which is made worse with stress it gets even more chaotic. Now I am at the point where I will soon have to make the choice of allowing my wife to be hospitalized because of her mental illness or I put my daughter out because of the strife she is causing. We’ve offered her all the help in the world and she continues to go on binges and tell us that what we offer won’t help. The last time she got wasted she told us all to “Go f***” ourselves. That night she left the house and was brought home by the police when they found her walking down the highway. As a parent I love my daughter endlessly. But I don’t see how (or why) I should continue to allow her to destroy the rest of the family. But at the same time I feel guilty for what I am considering. We can’t force her into treatment as she is an “adult” and I’m afraid that she will either end up in prison or dead. All this started I believe because she started smoking weed. The weed lowered her inhibitions and resistance and she started doing other drugs. So I truly believe that weed is a gateway drug and should never be legalized. If someone needs it for medicinal purposes they should have to go to a pharmacy for it just like we do with other prescription medications. It hurts me to do it, but I think I may be evicting her from the house today when I get home from work.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: cannabis; drugs; family; libertarianagenda; marijuana; pot; prodope; wod
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To: rfreedom4u

As a public school teacher I see this all the time: One of the greatest reasons why it happens is because the weed lobby is not honest about the effects of weed on people.

1. It makes you lazy.
2. It makes you stupid.
3. It’s essentially a waste of time during your youth, when you should be spending it creating a foundation for later.
4. It DOES lead to other drugs.
5. It’s ILLEGAL (in most states)

It’s very sad because most kids think that weed is a panacea, when it’s as dangerous as other drugs - it soaks into the fatty tissue in your brain for a month.


41 posted on 02/02/2015 1:21:33 PM PST by struggle
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To: rfreedom4u

Drug and Alcohol addiction doesn’t happen in a vacuum. If she smoked pot at 12, then she was heading into troubled waters from the git. Maybe you were in a bad neighborhood, not wealthy enough to take care of the problem right away ... as in boarding school or Junior Military Academy. Maybe you were too rich and became an enabler — spoiled her with endless supply of money for drugs. Maybe perhaps your family wasn’t functioning properly?

Pot is not a gateway drug just like guns don’t make people go on killing rampages.

For people near or over 50, Pot is a very good drug given the right strain. It keeps me alive and enjoying life where I otherwise would have hard times due in large part to health maladies. One of the primary reasons I like Marijuana is it keeps me off the psychotropics. Everybody I know over 50 is on psychotropics — prozac, zoloft, celexia — Just what the Government wants. Zombie people not causing political problems as we’re brought to hell in a hand basket.

I pray for your daughter and you and hope the situation self-repairs itself in full and for a happy ending.


42 posted on 02/02/2015 1:23:23 PM PST by Usagi_yo (It's not possible to give success. Only opportunity. Success is earned on it's own right.)
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To: dhs12345
BS, a little girl shouldn't be exposed to that kind of situation in the first place. Period.

Let me repeat, she was a little girl when she started.

And it was illegal when she first tried it. Little girls shouldn't be exposed to lots of things that adults do... but the answer isn't in big government banning everything for adults.

In fact, I would argue that the more we rely on big government to tell us what we should or shouldn't do the less we rely on ourselves and our families, and that makes us more susceptible to danger in the long run.

43 posted on 02/02/2015 1:23:58 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: GeronL

All drugs are not bad, you ever take an aspirin or tylenol, cough syrup, smoke a cigarette or take a drink of booze. How about coffee, tea or a coke. Chocolate and some foods are drugs also as they stimulate the body, meaning it is a drug. You youngsters think you know everything and try to impart your limited wisdom on people that has been there and done that.


44 posted on 02/02/2015 1:25:32 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: eastforker

I forget that some freepers equate water and meth as equally dangerous


45 posted on 02/02/2015 1:28:44 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Cementjungle; dhs12345; eastforker
dhs12, prayers up for your family, including your daughter. Eastforker is right that it doesn't mean she was raised improperly. Each soul put on earth has its own row to hoe with regard to the challenges the Almighty put in front of it. May the Lord's light rest on you and bless you.

Legalization has nothing to do with it... it's always been available, and always will be... legal or not. Addiction is addiction, regardless of the substance-du-jour. One needs to deal with the addiction itself.

Cement -- YES. Blaming the booze, the pot, the "disease," for the problem is like blaming a gun for a shooting. The alcohol isn't what spoiled a beloved's life, and blaming it on the alcohol has given him a sympathetic out.

It's all behavioral. It's very difficult to accept. Thinking of it as a disease relieves self-responsibility, but if addiction is a disease, it's self-inflicted and self-cured, even if that self-cure requires the Lord. The truth is that addiction is behavioral, and in it lies as best a "solution" as one can find.

46 posted on 02/02/2015 1:29:18 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: rfreedom4u; ConservingFreedom; DiogenesLamp; GeronL

Your story is heartbreaking. Prayers up for all of you.

If only the liberals who endorse and promote drug use could see the harm done personally to our youth, maybe they would take a step back.


47 posted on 02/02/2015 1:30:58 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: rfreedom4u

Sorry for your troubles. Just wondering, does she also smoke cigarettes? I’ve known quite a few people with addiction problems, both drugs and alcohol, including some near and dear to me who died young as a result. Every single one I’ve ever known really started out smoking cigarettes, and never quit. IMHO if there is a such a thing as a gateway drug to addiction that’s it.

I also agree with what someone said above, there are small percentage of people who are just much more susceptible to becoming addicted to anything than others. Unfortunately your daughter sounds like one of those. I hope she turns it around.


48 posted on 02/02/2015 1:32:47 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor-, -first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Responsibility2nd
the liberals who endorse and promote drug use

I've never endorsed nor promoted drug use - so why did you post this to me?

49 posted on 02/02/2015 1:33:57 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Finny
Blaming the booze, the pot, the "disease," for the problem is like blaming a gun for a shooting.

Exactly.

50 posted on 02/02/2015 1:34:59 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: rfreedom4u

First and foremost you must accept the fact that you cannot help her. She is the only person that can help herself, it is not about getting help it is about her and only her making a decision to live or die. Either one gets to a point in ones life that one reaches an epiphany or one lives a short miserable life, and nobody outside that person can make a difference, or make the decision to stop doing drugs. I apologize if this sounds cold hearted but it is the truth.


51 posted on 02/02/2015 1:35:46 PM PST by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: Responsibility2nd

Only one poster here promoted his own drug use for him personally . Other than him, I am not aware of anyone else here promoting drug use, many of have denounced nanny state Nazism, telling a free people what they can and can not do to pursue life, liberty and happiness.


52 posted on 02/02/2015 1:35:46 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: rfreedom4u; ConservingFreedom

“conserving freedom”, You need to get involved in this thread. Here is some more of those innocent victims which you claim don’t exist.


53 posted on 02/02/2015 1:36:47 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: GeronL

all drugs are bad, but you will be hearing all sorts of lame excuses for pot on this forum.

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Indeed.

And more than a few replies blaming him for this problem.

Oh well. What can you expect from FR’s infamous pro-dope crowd.


54 posted on 02/02/2015 1:37:16 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

CF is already here.

Blaming the victim and spreading lies and disinformation.


55 posted on 02/02/2015 1:38:15 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: bicyclerepair
However, I know lots of people who’ve smoked weed and are very successful. Everything is relative.

When the plague swept through Europe it killed like every third person. That some people are immuned is no reason to expose those who aren't.

Yes, some people can handle marijuana and it does not screw up their lives. A *LOT* of other people cannot handle it and it does.

Should we just throw those people away? Should our laws only reflect what the strong can survive?

56 posted on 02/02/2015 1:39:16 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: bicyclerepair

My experience is that weed is VERY bad for people with mental issues. I knew people who could smoke weed all day and still go to class. I knew people who would smoke weed and become a waste case. Two of my college roommates were addicted to weed. Dawn until bedtime was weed time.

But the one thing about weed is that people are willing to smoke it all day long. I honestly don’t know anyone that drinks all day.


57 posted on 02/02/2015 1:40:59 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: dhs12345
I'd hunt down the asshole who gave it to her and administer some justice. And I guarantee you that he or she would never be found.

And you have correctly identified the person who victimized her. Were it not for these people spreading this disease, we might be rid of it.

Yes Libertarians, teaching someone else to do drugs is an INJURY to them.

58 posted on 02/02/2015 1:41:33 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: rfreedom4u

It did not start because your daughter started smokoing weed. It started because she has an addictive personality. Lots of people try weed and even the harder drugs your daughter has and can turn it off. It sounds like your daughter is not one that can or will on her own.

Your choices are to get her into professional rehab if she will or to sit back and do nothing while the drugs ruin her life. You are not in control of the situation. You can only try and hope or give up. Either option is reasonable. Most dont get to the give up part until they are exhausted at having tried everything.


59 posted on 02/02/2015 1:41:41 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: eastforker

I know who you’re talking about. And yes, that stoner is on the thread too.

But ConservingFreedom - while denying he uses it - is worse. A retread troll spreading lies and disinformation about the stuff.

Oh look - here he comes now with his usual 3 question reply to any comments anyone makes to challenge him.


60 posted on 02/02/2015 1:41:44 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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