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To: Boogieman

In a Libertarian sense one has ownership of oneself and therefore the right to the free use that “property”. Isn’t this right derived from the control of the “matter” of the body.

I should have stated at the beginning that the starting point for my conception of “natural rights” was Nature not the Creator of the nature.


12 posted on 01/27/2015 1:31:35 PM PST by Al Gore Vidal
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To: Al Gore Vidal

“In a Libertarian sense one has ownership of oneself...”

Did you purchase yourself? Do you have a receipt or deed of ownership? This point needs to be demonstrated, if you can do it.

“Isn’t this right derived from the control of the “matter” of the body.”

If I borrow my friend’s car, I have control of it, but I don’t own it, nor do I have any of the rights associated with such ownership. Ownership of a material thing might confer rights with regard to it, but control, in and of itself? If that were the case, every thief could assert rights over whatever they laid their hands on.

“I should have stated at the beginning that the starting point for my conception of “natural rights” was Nature not the Creator of the nature.”

Well, I’m afraid that you are going to be chasing your tail in that case. How can nature give something to us that nature itself doesn’t possess?


14 posted on 01/27/2015 1:42:56 PM PST by Boogieman
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