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Have We Carefully Thought of the Consequences of Absolute Free Speech?
Enza Ferreri Blog ^ | 26 January 2015 | Enza Ferreri

Posted on 01/26/2015 1:03:50 PM PST by Enza Ferreri

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1 posted on 01/26/2015 1:03:50 PM PST by Enza Ferreri
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To: Enza Ferreri

Rights are coupled with responsibilities.

Who didn’t know that?


2 posted on 01/26/2015 1:09:14 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Enza Ferreri

The article does not distinguish between government censorship and a corporate firing of an offending cartoonist. The company can fire whoever they want for insensitive speech/media. But that is far different than such speech being against the law.


3 posted on 01/26/2015 1:10:14 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: WayneS

yes, the “you can’t yell fire in crowded theatre” concept...


4 posted on 01/26/2015 1:10:22 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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It's because of people like CH and De Andre’ and their successful propagation of desecrations of what had kept us together and strong for centuries, that we have been left with absolutely nothing to fight Islam with.

We have the truth--which is verifiable in ways that Islam's lies are not. We have abundant natural and human resources, that in an all-out war, should the other side choose to make it an all-out war, would be undefeatable.

The only question is whether or not we have the courage of our convictions. I think we don't now, but we could if we wanted it enough.

5 posted on 01/26/2015 1:10:57 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Precisely!


6 posted on 01/26/2015 1:11:26 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Enza Ferreri

Is the author hoping to plant seeds of freedom of speech suppression? Probably but we see though the ruse once again despite the fancy garnisments of eloquent verbiage and mood setting images handpicked to appeal to his target audience. Just another deceiver doing the Socialist tap dance once again


7 posted on 01/26/2015 1:15:26 PM PST by jsanders2001
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Christianity must be protected from its enemies, then as now. It’s not a question of preferential taste or personal desire: it’s the collective cohesion that is at stake, without which there is no Western society

 

Hold the bus here Buckwheat. If you are arguing the the government is responsible for protectiing Christianity, then we have a problem here.

8 posted on 01/26/2015 1:28:25 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: jsanders2001

I don’t see the article as socialist, especially after going to the publishing site. The source is somewhere in the constellation of Pat Buchanan/John Birch Society/Ku Klux Klan, judging from other articles they run and the comment sections. White supremacy? If it quacks like a duck...


9 posted on 01/26/2015 1:29:50 PM PST by sparklite2
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To: Enza Ferreri

Wow, he has “discovered” something my parents taught me (more years ago than I care to confirm).

Oh well, my folks were only Cajuns with an 11th grade education (thankfully, it was through Catholic schools, which placed them in the Harvard 1940s-level compared to the jokes attending our universities now).


10 posted on 01/26/2015 1:50:02 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Responsibility2nd
If you are arguing the the government is responsible for protectiing Christianity

Currently they seem to have an obligation to protect Islam, the religion of peace.

11 posted on 01/26/2015 1:50:50 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs.98¢-89¢<1 dim)
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To: Enza Ferreri

“That revolting excuse of a rag has been a procession of covers offending Christianity, at a moment when like never before we need something to believe in and to rally around.

“It’s because of people like CH and De Andre’ and their successful propagation of desecrations of what had kept us together and strong for centuries, that we have been left with absolutely nothing to fight Islam with.

By disarming us, the CH journalists victims of the recent attacks have indeed invited their own death - in a deeper sense than is commonly thought.”

What a bunch of revolting, sheep fodder! To intimate that Christianity, which has survived hundreds of years of every kind of attack that Satan himself could devise; could be defeated and Christians “disarmed” because of mortal words of any kind! I am almost at a loss to describe how stupid this is but then I realize that there are many people who will buy into it.

Absolute free speech may be uncomfortable at times but it surely beats the dumbed down, socialist drivel that is becoming our government. This moron has made the act of expressing an opinion grounds for execution! Amazing!
Christians disarmed? Hardly!


12 posted on 01/26/2015 1:51:15 PM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

Well said. It’s utter tripe.


13 posted on 01/26/2015 1:53:37 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: WayneS

>Rights are coupled with responsibilities.<

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The Constitution does not state that because it was written by basically disciplined and virtuous men who thought that their fellow citizens were just as responsible as they were.

The authors of the Constitution lived in an 18th century atmosphere where people were held responsible for their actions, not foreseeing the total madhouse of moral values of the late 20th and 21th centuries.


14 posted on 01/26/2015 1:57:22 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

Good point. My mistake.

At this point in time there are probably a LOT of people who have never been exposed to the idea that rights and responsibilities are married to one another.


15 posted on 01/26/2015 2:12:52 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS

At this point in time there are probably a LOT of people who have never been exposed to the idea that rights and responsibilities are married to one another.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN.................


16 posted on 01/26/2015 2:17:13 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Enza Ferreri

The obvious fallacy in the above discussion was the assumption of an equivalency between formalized debate and all other sorts of civil discourse.

Whereas a debate may need rules, that doesn’t prove that all speech needs rules, since not all speech is debate.


17 posted on 01/26/2015 2:22:50 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do)
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To: Enza Ferreri
But, beyond obvious cases like these, we can immediately see that we cannot reach a consensus, since people in our fractured society have widely-different goals and principles.

That's how you know you've reached the limit, genius.

The obvious criminal cases are it. Everything else is allowed by definition. Its a freedom thing.

P.S. Let me make this really clear, because my Spidey-sense tells me you're trying to creep through the back door here: YES, it IS appropriate free speech to mock Muslims for their murderous barbarity, their enslaving of women and non-Muslims, and their efforts to destroy Western Civilization and replace it with Sharia. Got that?

Even if it enrages them to violence. In fact, ESPECIALLY if it enrages them to violence, so that we can use their violence as justification to go to global war with their damned murder cult and wipe them off of the face of the Earth once and for all.

I hope I've made myself clear.

18 posted on 01/26/2015 2:26:51 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: jsanders2001

>Is the author hoping to plant seeds of freedom of speech suppression?<

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Whose freedom of expression do you value more? That of the Christians or of the Muslims?

“I value both, equally.”, you say.
Good, you’re a good American. Expect a long fight and lots of bloodshed that the Muslims will win in the end because they are the more aggressive of the two religions.

“I value the Christian view more than I value the Muslim view.”
Good, you’re a good American. You will have to muzzle the right of the Muslim religion because its view is in total opposition of Christian teachings.

“I place a higher value on the Muslim view.”, you say.
Good, you’re a good American. Tell your lovely wife to buy herself a sexy burqa.


19 posted on 01/26/2015 2:35:25 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: C. Edmund Wright
yes, the “you can’t yell fire in crowded theatre” concept...

Only true if there is no fire.

 

20 posted on 01/26/2015 2:46:07 PM PST by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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