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I guess the 11 trillion dollars we spent just since 1965 means nothing.
1 posted on 01/23/2015 12:04:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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yes the african nations that sold their own people should compensate them.


2 posted on 01/23/2015 12:05:42 PM PST by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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Would “Full Reparations” include relocation to one’s continent of ancestral origin?

I’m in favor, as long as the money for this process be raised by introducing a tax on all cable outlets: How about $1/subscriber/month?

Or a movie tax: $2/ticket.


3 posted on 01/23/2015 12:08:53 PM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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There is more slavery today I believe going on that at the height of the Civil War but overseas. So what is this person doing about it? Cashing in somewhere else.


4 posted on 01/23/2015 12:10:55 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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>> He says he believes there is a “tremendous gulf between White America and Black America” that has not been addressed.

Totally true. A gulf created by blacks themselves.

And as soon as BLACKS address their many and serious shortcomings — by learning, exercising, and teaching respect for EDUCATION, FAMILY, and WORK ETHIC — they’ll be on the way to bridging that gulf.

Oh yeah, and quit your endless bellyaching, pull your damn pants up, learn to speak proper English, and stop naming yourselves stupid bush names like “Ta-Nahisi”.


5 posted on 01/23/2015 12:11:44 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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“The first thing is to get people to admit that there is in fact a chasm there and that it is the result of actual policies and decisions that were made, that there is an actual debt."

OK. The chasm exists. Its a result of Welfare policies and other liberal policies that destroyed the black family. The one national institution that benefited the most from slavery, Jim Crow and other policies that hurt blacks is the Democratic Party. It probably deserves the equivalent of an institutional death sentence so it should be banned and its assets seized.

6 posted on 01/23/2015 12:12:02 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Here it comes.
I’ve been saying this for a year. $1T as reparations through executive order


7 posted on 01/23/2015 12:13:13 PM PST by Zathras
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Money won’t do it. Only Christ can fix whats broken.


8 posted on 01/23/2015 12:14:07 PM PST by marron
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I’m in favor of reparations, but only in the form of a non-refundable, one-way ticket to Africa for anyone who wants it.


9 posted on 01/23/2015 12:17:33 PM PST by Boogieman
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For White slaves of Black slave Masters? Or just reparations for Black slaves of White slave holders?


10 posted on 01/23/2015 12:19:55 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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This is nothing new but bears repeating. Reparations are extortion paid to people who were never slaves by people who were never slave owners.


11 posted on 01/23/2015 12:20:08 PM PST by donaldo
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Give them reparations with the understanding that they will leave the US and NEVER return.


12 posted on 01/23/2015 12:23:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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I think that anyone who was held in slavery should collect reparations. Just go to the local IRS office with proof of enslavement and then collect the big check. Person must be alive however, no payouts to dusty skeletal remains. Ancestors of slave traders should be forced to pay into reparations fund. So if someone’s ancestors belonged to any East African Muslim slave trading marauding tribe well they should be forced to pay big time.


13 posted on 01/23/2015 12:23:27 PM PST by gusty
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Who is still alive to be punished or rewarded for slavery 150 years ago?

Imagine for a moment that reincarnation is real and I, a white person, am the reincarnation of a long dead black slave.
Now I'm forced to pay reparations to my black neighbor, who could be the reincarnation of my former abusive owner (but neither of us know this).
Where's the justice in that?

They want to punish my skin color but they punish me and reward him for his current skin color.


14 posted on 01/23/2015 12:23:30 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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Reparations were paid in full when 700,000 white boys slaughtered each other over whether blacks would be free or not. Tens of thousands more gave lost arms, legs, eyes in that conflict between 1861 and 1865.


17 posted on 01/23/2015 12:41:54 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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The only type of "reparations" that would actually change anything is to give each black (more than 50% negroid genes) person a white (less than 50% negroid genes) indentured slave to go out and get a job and turn over their paychecks to them each week.

Just giving them money or property won't work because they will just piss it away and we will be right back where we started from in five years.

18 posted on 01/23/2015 12:47:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Offend a Christian and he is obliged to pray for you. Offend a Muslim and he is obliged to kill you.)
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These absurd requests will only stop when whites start demanding slavery be reinstated to get some form of payment for all of the food, clothing, and shelter doled out since then. The fact that “reparations” is even discussed openly with a straight face should terrify taxpayers.

I want some return on the funds taken from my paycheck and transferred to unproductive, shiftless parasites.


19 posted on 01/23/2015 12:48:56 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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I am in favor of paying reparations to any living person who was held in slavery within the United States while slavery was the law of the land in the United States.


20 posted on 01/23/2015 12:49:56 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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Here we go AGAIN!!!

Reparations for slavery?

When a black woman is one of the richest people in America?

When a black man was Secretary of State??

When a black woman was Secretary of State?

When black men have sat -- and do sit -- on the Supreme Court??

When a black would-be despot sits in the White House?????

When countless black men have risen to the top of the ranks of the richest in professional sports and show business?? Men like Hank Aaron. Men like Bill Cosby who... (Never mind. As we all know, because he speaks out against the cultural rot and violence among his black brethren, Bill's either an Uncle Tom or Oreo Cookie, depending on which black race pimp you listen to.)

And, how about Liberation Theology?

Liberation from WHAT? The chance to achieve and succeed??

Give me a break!!

Let me make it clear right up front: I am NOT a racist. I supported Herman Cain in his run for the Senate and supported him in his run for the WH. And if Allen West or Dr. Carson go for it, they, too, have my support.

I also consider Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams two of the finest economists and minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, both are black.

Sowell, Williams and Cain – among others -- have spoken out against those fellow blacks who castigate and vilify America for a slavery now long in our past. And ALL thinking men and women oppose the periodic calls for reparations. (When he ran, I supported Alan Keyes. I even spoke in his stead on the RTKABA at a Capitol rally and was asked to fill in for him on his radio show at the time. Sadly, while I still consider Alan a good man, I have had to rethink my support since he came out FOR reparations.)

The fact is that the modern descendants of slaves brought here in chains in admittedly miserable, soul-gutting conditions now calling for reparations need to remember something:

They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ANYWHERE!

Had their ancestors NOT been brought OUT of Africa – many by MUSLIM slave raiders --the blood of those ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago, victims of the OTHER black tribes that captured them in one of the interminable tribal conflicts STILL ravaging that sad continent and these modern day would-be "plaintiffs" would not even exist.

And I would remind you that slavery is STILL practiced in parts of Africa (mainly by – American BLACK MUSLIMS LISTEN UP!! -- MUSLIMS), the Middle East and Asia today. How ironic that disgruntled American blacks are embracing a system that participated mightily in their initial bondage – and would, if Islam takes root here, probably put any who cling to their Christianity back INTO BONDAGE – or to the sword. In fact, as the majority of muslims consider black folks as “sub-human”, many of you black muzzies will get the axe.

95% of the African slaves who were transported across the Atlantic went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions, and that less than 5% of the slaves who crossed the Atlantic went to the United States, it was remarkable that the vast majority of academic research, films, books and articles concerning the slave trade concentrated only on the American involvement, as though slavery was a uniquely American aberration.

And should the great-great-great grandchildren of SLAVE OWNING BLACKS also be subject to PAYING these reparations? If so, how do we find THEM?

And I have traced MY family back to the SLAVS. Although the term looks to be related to “slave,” depending on your source, it either means “glory” or “worshipper.” But my family research indicates that many of my ancestors LIVED lives of virtual or real slavery to some despot or other. Do I qualify for reparations? From whom?? And it begs a question: Are most of us now living here headed into a modern form of that servitude? But that’s a topic for another discussion.

The official US Census of 1830 lists 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Furthermore, the story outlines the history of slavery here, and the first slave owner, the Father of American slavery, was Mr Anthony Johnson, of Northampton, Virginia. His slave was John Casor, the first slave for life. Both were black Africans. The story is very readable, and outlines cases of free black women owning their husbands, free black parents selling their children into slavery to white owners, and absentee free black slave owners, who leased their slaves to plantation owners. -"Selling Poor Steven", American Heritage Magazine, Feb/Mar 1993 (Vol. 441) p 90

Of course, a full telling of Black History would not be complete without a recitation of the origin of slavery in the Virginia colony: Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers' Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378

A few more salient points on the subject:

Until the US declared independence, the Colonies were REQUIRED by the King of England to embrace slavery.

The Northwest Ordinance (1789) prohibited slavery in federal territories.

A law prohibiting the importation of slaves into the US became effective in 1808.

Beginning in 1820, the Democratic Congress started passing laws allowing and encouraging slavery.

It was only after the Republican Party (many of whom were southern Blacks) was formed some 40 years later that the anti-slavery movement was able to move forward.

And the holier-than-thou Northern liberals are strangely silent on recent archeological evidence from NEW YORK CITY clearly tracing the financing of the slave trade to NORTHERN BUSINESSMEN!!

At the height of his remarkable boxing career, Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Clay), once declared, “I’m glad my great-grandpa got on that boat.”

And speaking of ancestors, my paternal grandmother’s daddy, William Henry Robinson, joined with the 80th Ohio Volunteer Infantry early in the War Between the States (re-upped twice) and fought on the Union side at Vicksburg, Jackson and elsewhere in the deep South then joined up with Sherman for that infamous march to the sea through Georgia. My wife’s great-great grandpappy ALSO fought for the Union. While I revere the memory of my ancestors, inasmuch as that conflict was less about slavery than it was the economic exploitation and abuse of the South by the North, I fear they MAY have been on the wrong side.

Author Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.

Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice, “Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”

Next problem!

Dick Bachert

AFTERWORD:

A brief review of the FACTS on the subject:

Until the US declared independence, we were required by the King of England to embrace slavery.

The Northwest Ordinance (1789) prohibited slavery in federal territories.

A law prohibiting the importation of slaves into the US became effective in 1808.

Beginning in 1820, the Democratic Congress started passing laws allowing and encouraging slavery.

It was only after the Republican Party (many of whom were southern Blacks) was formed some 40 years later that the anti-slavery movement was able to move forward.

24 posted on 01/23/2015 12:59:46 PM PST by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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This is the political pornography that liberals masturbate to.


26 posted on 01/23/2015 1:39:15 PM PST by neocon1984
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I agree with Dr. Walter E. Williams on reparations. I believe that every living American who ever owned a slave should pay reparations to every living American who ever was a slave.


27 posted on 01/23/2015 1:43:47 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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