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To: cynwoody
However, little Barry arriving from Kenya would actually have been a natural-born citizen, ...

Statutory Citizen created by the power of Congress, not "natural born". Children born abroad to a single American female parent are only recognized as citizens as a result of the Cable act of 1922 and the Citizenship act of 1934. (Or in Obama's case, it would have been the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, I think.)

But I never bought in to the theory that he was born in Kenya. The Logistics don't work. From the available evidence I have seen, he was either born in Hawaii, Washington state, or Canada.

243 posted on 01/28/2015 6:12:21 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
He was born in Kenya.

The mother was too young to meet the requirements of the law at that time, to transfer U.S. Citizenship to her child.

Read Citizenship Rules for People Born Outside the United States
244 posted on 01/28/2015 6:34:45 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: DiogenesLamp

‘But I never bought in to the theory that he was born in Kenya. The Logistics don’t work. From the available evidence I have seen, he was either born in Hawaii, Washington state, or Canada.’

DL, I would agree with your conclusion except for one thing. Namely, the transcripts from the Kenyan National Assembly following Obama’s presidential win. Back when they were readily available, I read them over several times. There is no question that the MPs come right out and say Obama was born there. They all agree; there is not one MP who clarifies the record by referring to Obama’s father or to a HI birth, or who makes any other objection.

The part that always interested me most, however, was what the president of the Assembly said. He noted that Obama had called him in the middle of the night, Kenyan time, on the very day Obama won the presidency. Obama asked the president of the Kenyan Parliament to ‘take care of this for me.’ The president agreed to do so—and indeed, says he is actually in the process of doing so at that very moment.

What he actually does is cut off calls for special recognition, at least at that time, of Obama’s Kenyan birth. He then moves the discussion on to the regular order of business.

Now why would all those MPs be so confused? According to several Obot/moonbat sites I read, the Kenyans were simply “wrong.” I.e.: they all actually DID believe Obama was born in Kenya, but according to the Obot commentators, they were simply mistaken.

I really struggle with that. It always sounded to me like a case of white liberal racism. Iow, ‘we American liberals are smart while the black Africans are stupid.’

Is that all there is to the whole National Assembly issue? The Kenyans simply being too clueless to know who was and wasn’t born in their own country?

No, I no longer have the link. It used to be readily available, but I haven’t searched for it lately. The last time I found it and read the complete transcript, I got a major virus on my computer. I haven’t looked for it since. I read somewhere that the transcript is hard to find these days. That may be true; I don’t know.

Anyway, that is the single biggest obstacle between me and considering other options for Obama’s birth. I can’t consider HI because I don’t believe his mother could have lived there for that many mos, delivered a baby in the hospital, brought it home, etc., without *anyone* noticing. The lack of ***any*** evidence that she was in Honolulu during her pregnancy tells me she wasn’t there. [Plus, if she’d been there, her address would have been used on the birth announcements, as opposed to an address at which neither she nor the baby ever resided.]

If you care to comment, I’d be interested in your thoughts. Thanks in advance.

[I recently saw an article online (which I could probably find for you, if you wanted to read it) that contained all the MPs’ quotes stating that Obama Jr was born in Kenya. It left off the single most interesting quote, however, which is the one where the president of the Assembly spoke of his middle-of-the-night chat w President Elect Obama. For me, that quote is the decisive one. Why would Obama call this person and ask for a favor on such an occasion? Is there some other issue he could have been alluding to, or are birth issues the only ones that could realistically apply in context?]

Note: some of the quotes are at the link below, including a comment attributed to Stanley Ann about “returning to Kenya.’ According to the anti-birthers she was never there. Very hard to ‘return’ to a place you’ve never been:

http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/WhatToBelieve.htm]


245 posted on 01/28/2015 7:05:45 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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