Exposing The First Birther [Who was the first person to say that Obama was born in Kenya?]

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Exposing The First Birther

Posted on January 17, 2015 by stevengoddard

Birthers are evil people who say that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. The first birther was almost certainly Barack Obama.

From 1991 to 2007, his literary agents promoted him as being born in Kenya. The only plausible place they could have gotten his bio from is from Barack Obama himself. There was no Internet in 1991. When someone wants a bio, they say “write a short paragraph about yourself.” It is implausible that his bio came from anyone else, or that his agents would have wasted time trying to pull together information about some recently graduated college kid’s birthplace and background.

Miriam Goderich of Acton & Dystel says that she didn’t do adequate fact checking, but she never said whose facts it was she was checking.

So why would Obama lie about his birthplace? If you ask that question, progressives call you a birther. (Queue in the usual progressive scumbags.)

1991

Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii’

2004

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

2007

http://web.archive.org/web/20070403190001

[CpnHook]

... However, evidence to indicate that Obama war born in Kenya is plentiful and it goes significantly beyond the 1991 version of the brochure.

The excerpt contains 12 bullet points. The first 5 pertain to the brochure. As I've noted and documented in part above, in 1990, the year before the brochure was first produced, Obama told the NY Times, WashPo, Tribune, and LA Times he was "born in Hawaii." The likelihood then is that "born in Kenya" in the brochure did not come from Obama, but resulted from some action or confusion by the agency. Birther supporters are marked with a powerful out-of-context pretension.

That the document underwent revisions in other places doesn't mean the original was accurate.

The next point is about Michelle Obama calling Kenya O's "homeland." This stops short of her saying he was born in Kenya, as "homeland" can mean "ancestral home." This offers no evidence.

The next three points repeat the erroneous claim that Sarah Obama stated she was present in Kenya when her grandson was born. Once the original edited tape recording was released and translation clarified, the more accurate account is she said she was there in Kenya when her grandson was born in Hawaii.

The next point about Jerome Corsi being booted out of Kenya furnishes no evidence that Obama was born there. Though it may be evidence Corsi is a pompous jerk.

The next point about missing records again furnishes no proof O was born there.

The final point that Obama has political ties to Kenya likewise says nothing about him being born there.

For the mainstream media to IMPLY that the 1991 brochure is the “source” of the claim that Obama was born in Kenya IS COMPLETELY INACCURATE.

Well, the above offers just 5 points that are about the brochure and 7 more that are B.S. and prove nothing about a supposed Kenyan birth. The MSM assertion is true.

[Fantasywriter]

‘Yet at every turn you ignore the main points I make’

That’s not true. A couple of times I have tried to discuss your main points. But discussion of them is like sunlight to a vampire to you. Discussion is not what you want/can handle. You require absolute obeisance. The only thing you can handle in response to your main points is servile acceptance.

If somebody actually challenges your points, you go bananas. As in, you go berserk/off the deep end/off the rails on a crazy train. You literally can’t handle it. It’s painful to watch. I would gladly discuss your points with a rational conservative. There is a good case to counter them. But this case cannot be made to you. You, being a tightly-wound far left liberal, go haywire/nuts/lunatic/wild at the hint of any push back against your points.

You are too emotionally invested in them. They are all you have. Any challenge to them short circuits your brain, and an irrational fit ensues. You may enjoy it. You must, or you’d at least make an effort to stay sane. But trust me, it’s no fun on the other end. A liberal having a mental meltdown is not someone the average person wants to engage with. It’s unpleasant. Perhaps that’s the point? You figure if you freak out sufficiently, no one will dare to argue with you? That was Hillary’s approach. Just start shrieking and screaming and emotionally melting down, and people back off. It worked for her, and you figure why shouldn’t it work for you. Make your freak outs crazy enough, and people will just want to leave it/you alone.

But then you whine and cry and moan unceasingly. ‘Waaah...nobody will discuss my main points...waaaah.’ Well maybe if you could drop the insanity and discuss them rationally....

But you can’t. So stop whining about it. It’s your fault; suck it up and live with it.

[Yosemitest]

Not B.S.
Just FACTS !
And you ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF supporters can't TOLERATE facts !
So you sow DOUBT !
Here's hoping the first person you see AFTER you're resurrected, is the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF.
All those who support Obama are in for a very hot surprise.
The evil - they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet.

[Yosemitest]

Yeah, your EVIL LAWLESS ONE was documented at the time of his entrance into the United States.

INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!

[Natufian]

Obama travelled from Kenya to the US whilst he was less than one year old ON HIS OWN?

[CpnHook]

A couple of times I have tried to discuss your main points.

Two of the main points I had to keep repeating were these:

1. The FACT that Obama in 1990 told the NY Times, WashPo, Chicago Tribune, and L.A. Times that he was "born in Hawaii" and that this FACT was circulated nationwide, making his Hawaii birth a matter of record in 1990. Your response: crickets. You've avoided discussing this at every turn.

2. The FACT that Hawaii's verifications of Obama's birth facts means that Obama's Hawaiian birth has been certified in the way that birth facts for the rest are certified when we apply for licenses, passports, etc. -- state certification. And the FACT that this state certification comes with Constitutional significance under the Full Faith & Credit clause. Your response? Well, first you lied and claimed you made a reply. Then many iterations later when you couldn't prove up that assertion, you shifted tack to say you ignored it all along because it wasn't important.

You've tried to discuss these? LOL. You are dishonest to the core. Try to document where you're discussed these. You can't, because you haven't.

[Fantasywriter]

If you didn’t pay attention before, why is it my responsibility to (1) call your attention to something you should have read the first time, or (2) repeat myself?

This is what trolls do. They demand answers...over and over and over. Unless it’s the answer they want, it goes in one ear and out the other (if it even goes in at all, which is questionable).

This is why there should be a policy on trolls. All they do is disrupt. If I were talking to a conservative and had answered those questions, the conservative—whether birther or anti-birther—would at least have noticed the answer. [In the vast majority of cases, anyway. Occasionally even a conservative goes haywire/off the rails, but they do it about 99 x out of a 100 less than liberals.] & even a conservative *anti-birther* would have agreed with part of what I wrote, at least. It went to the heart of what conservatism is about.

You, by contrast, blow past my answers in your frenzy to type rote replies to things I didn’t say. You literally don’t read with comprehension one word I post. You’re too absorbed in repeating Obot talking points...over and over and over. Yet inevitably, in due time you’re back with your mantra, ‘Waaah, you didn’t answer this...waaah.’

Whine whine whine. That, plus insults, name calling and put downs is about all you do. & you have the effrontery to do it as an Obot liberal on a conservative site. Your entire attitude screams ‘Typical far left liberal!’ One day you’ll scream it just a little too loudly. Don’t say nobody gave you a heads up.

[CpnHook]

Yeah, your EVIL LAWLESS ONE was documented at the time of his entrance into the United States.

So you eagerly show how in the year ending June 30, 1962 there was one person who arrived from Kenya to the U.S.

Just one. Uno. Solitary. And you think this not only could be Obama, but that it is.

Well, if so, he really is THE ONE. The one who -- despite being no older than 9 mos. of age -- managed to travel by himself from Kenya to the U.S. Amazing, isn't it?

So, yeah, your stuff is B.S. Claiming it's evidence that Obama was born in Kenya just because Michelle referred to "homeland" is B.S. Suggesting it's evidence of Obama being born in Kenya just because Corsi got booted out, or that records are missing, or that Obama has some political ties there is B.S.

And to suggest this INS record is evidence of Obama being born in Kenya is utter B.S., because it obviously couldn't be Obama. And there are layers of stupid to peel away on this one, as your link then goes to another image titled "Certificates of Citizenship Granted to Person Who Acquired Citizenship at Birth Abroad." Well, duh, Birthers have been hammering for years on the point that if Obama was born in Kenya, he wouldn't be a citizen at birth because Stanley Ann didn't meet the then-existing requirements to convey citizenship. So that document wouldn't pertain to Obama either.

Your stuff is B.S.

[CpnHook]

If you didn’t pay attention before, why is it my responsibility to (1) call your attention to something you should have read the first time, or (2) repeat myself?

Oh, I did pay attention before. That's why I could confidently call you out on your B.S. when you tried claiming you had answered to these points.

Now, if I were wrong, and you had answered, then it would have been (still is) a simple matter to link to the particular post. But you haven't. And you can't because such post of yours doesn't exist.

That's why I can call you dishonest in claiming you replied, because I know you can't contradict that.

If someone were to assert I hadn't answered to a point, when in fact I had, I'd as quickly copy my prior answer, link it, and then rub that person's face in the truth. You can't do that here; all you can do is through throw up your usual smokescreen and diversion.

You literally don’t read with comprehension one word I post.

I've several times suggested (and requested) you stop interjecting yourself into my posts to others. Yet you persist. You're the one dragging me into these chats. Then you complain when I point out why you're an idiot.

Why not take up my suggestion this time and go pester other people from now on?

[Fantasywriter]

‘Now, if I were wrong, and you had answered, then it would have been (still is) a simple matter to link to the particular post. But you haven’t. And you can’t because such post of yours doesn’t exist.’

Actually I found the post, It was eloquent and powerful. Covered all the points. & the theoretical conservative anti-birther I mentioned would likely have agreed with all of it. It focused on issues all conservatives agree on.

But link it for you? Lol. As I said, it was written to you originally. I have it up now in another file. You obviously didn’t read it the first time, but you imagine you can demand/command me to produce it a second time. Dream. On.

You Obot trolls Make Me Sick.

[Oh, & by all means keep on LYING and claiming I never answered. From now on, all I’ll do is laugh. You know the kind of laughter I’m talking about. The fun, happy kind. The real kind. So yes, LIE about it again, claim I never wrote it, and then ask for it again. I’m in the mood to laugh.]

[Fantasywriter]

PS: Thanks for motivating me to locate my answer. I *thoroughly* enjoyed reading it a second time. Man, was I on fire that day! This time I think I’ll cut and paste my answer into my notepad. It’s definitely a keeper.

[CpnHook]

But link it for you? Lol.

Gosh, if only you could, then you could put me in my place.

Instead, what you get is me calling you a liar yet again.

Now go pester someone else. Or share your imaginary posts with the imaginary supporters in your head. Whatever.

[Fantasywriter]

Lol!

[cynwoody]

My theory is that what we see as the "official" birth certificate is nothing but a computer generated replacement birth certificate designed to look like one from 1961. There are issues with it that have nothing to do with layers. One of the most prominent is the spacing of letters. Some are off horizontally and some are off vertically. A typewriter cannot do this unless someone loosens the rollers from the platen. Given the numerous examples of where characters don't line up properly and in so many different places, it is improbable that someone would have removed the document or loosened the rollers from the platen so many times.

It's absurd that the HDoH would have gone to such trouble to fabricate an amended BC, especially since they do not give out the long form unless under pressure from the likes of Bob Bauer.

The certificate contains typewritten entries, handwritten entries, and what look like pencil marks, probably checkoffs made by an official cross-checking the certificate. No doubt it was rolled into manual typewriters multiple times. So it's no surprise the spacing is not up to laser-printer standards. The attending physician's signature was verified by his widow.

Of course, if you are contemplating forgery by the HDoH, lot's of things are possible. However, the contemporaneous birth announcement blows those theories out of the water in any case. Remember, Toot didn't place the announcement. The announcement appears in two separate papers, each containing the same list of babies in the same order.

Issuing an opaque amended certificate is trivial for the short form, because it's just the printout of a database query. You want to amend a database? There's a computer language for that. It's called SQL. Plus, the short form omits a lot of details, so they simply aren't there to be amended in the first place.

If he had an amended long form on file, it wouldn't look like the thing the White House posted. It would look like something somewhat removed from the actual birth attended by an actual doc. Something like a long short form or a short long form.

However, if in fact Lolo Soetoro adopted Obama, it's likely the records never left Indonesia and were never submitted to the HDoH. Therefore, there would have been no need for Obama, Sr., to have caused the HDoH to amend anything. And, even if Lolo Soetoro did indeed adopt Obama, that's merely an interesting fact, of no significance.

Nowadays they say "True and correct copy of the document on file or an abstract thereof." Basically a meaningless certification.

Tell it to the judge.

[cynwoody]

Yeah, your EVIL LAWLESS ONE was documented at the time of his entrance into the United States.

You've got a data integrity problem. If your theory is correct, the Kenya row should be showing a total of 2, of which 1 was an alien. Or 2 and 0, if the baby was considered to be American. Instead, it shows a total of 1, of which 1 was an alien. In other words, a non-American traveling alone.

However, little Barry arriving from Kenya would actually have been a natural-born citizen, having been born to an unmarried American citizen. Remember, BHO, Sr., was already married when he met Stanley Ann. So any marriage to Stanley Ann would have been invalid. Thereby blowing away birferism, even if little Barry actually was born in Kenya!

Cuing M. Vattel ...

[Fred Nerks]

from your link: Unfortunately, the report does not give data supporting that this individual was accompanied by a U.S. citizen parent. This may be explained by the disparity of time between being classified as an “alien” in the interim until a COAC was granted and the collection of data for this report’s date of publication...

The Kenyan student graduated from the U of HI in 1962, and on the 22nd of June he left the island, made his way to CA where he met Hal Abercrombie and his wife for dinner at 'The Blue Fox' - then took a bus across the US and on arrival in Cambridge, he took up residence at 170 Magazine Street, where he was joined by his younger brother Omar, who eventually attended a private high school in Boston.

That single arrival from Kenya for the year ended June 30, 1962 more realistically relates to Omar. imo.

[Yosemitest]

NO, it was only ONE, the baby Obama ( that is currently the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF ).

First, did you go to the link provided and READ the information in that link ?

Think about this.

"On August 4, 1961 Obama's mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa , Kenya .
Mother had been REFUSED ENTRYy to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy.
It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obamas went to the beach to cool off.
While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains, so was rushed to the Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya
where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA!).

Four days later HIS MOTHERr flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth,
which omitted the place and hospital of birth."

WhizCodger proposed:

I think it more likely that the trip from Kenya actually occurred in August 1961,
SHORTLY AFTER BHO-II's birth at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa.
Ann and her newborn son flew from Nairobi to London, via BOAC Flight BA162 and then took the non-stop BOAC flight from London to Vancouver, Canada.
She then traveled the 110 miles or so, across the border, to Seattle in time to start Fall Semester, night-school extension classes at the University of Washington.
The trip would be challenging for a new mother, but she was young, healthy, intelligent, and capable.
BOAC was very accomodating to mothers with young children back in the 1960s.
No real problem

From the Airline Timetable Images - List of Complete Timetables, the cost of BOAC from April 24,1960 until October 1, 1962 was:

From Vancouver to Nairobi cost in Canadian Dollars:
Single Return
DL 1115.00 2026.80
F 1055.50 1918.80
T 764.00 1396.00
Y 701.00 1282.60

Passanger Fares could be "FLY NOW AND PAY LATER".
Arrangements could be made whereby residents of certain areas may, on payment of a 10% deposit,

travel immediately
and pay the balance of fare in monthly installments.


Passanger Information for that time frame can be found here.
Connections from Nairobi - Lusaka - Salisbury can be found here.

The BOAC World Routes Map is found here.

Departure arrival times from Britian to Nairobi are found here.

Departure arrival times for London and Vancouver are found here.

If you're wondering about where the money came from, think about this.
Look at all the financial supporters Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. had.

"In 1959, Obama Sr. received a scholarship in economics through a program organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya.
The program offered Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students.[22][23][24]
Initial financial supporters of the program included Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Jackie Robinson, and Elizabeth Mooney Kirk,
a literacy advocate who provided most of the financial support for Obama Sr.'s early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University.
Funds provided the following year by John F. Kennedy's family paid off old debts of the project and subsidized student stipends,
thereby indirectly benefiting Obama Sr. and other members of the 1959 group of scholarship holders.

Yes, it's quite clear that money wasn't a problem for the Marxists Revolutionaries.


So the crossing would have been One American Citizen, the mother Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, and one alien, the baby Barack Hussein Obama II.
Obama's father stayed behind in Kenya and said he would come later.

His mother could NOT impart U.S. citizen to her son, Barack Obama II, because she did NOT meet the legal requirements to do so,
at the time her son was born IN the Coast Provincial General Hospital, MOMBASA, KENYA at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.

And that's WHY the Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro), has NO legitimate Social Security Number.

Barack Obama Sr. was a "Transient Alien" because he did NOT intend on residing in the United States permanently.
Barack Obama Sr. was a dual citizen of Great Britain and Kenya, and NEVER a United States Citizen.

Barack Hussein Obama II is NOT a United States Citizen, and is NOT a LEGAL IMMIGRANT.
He has no VISA allowing him into this country.
Barack Hussein Obama II IS ILLEGAL (plain and simple) !

Now THINK, REALLY THINK HARD about those FACTS, and statements.

[Yosemitest]

Hey Obama DELUSIONIST, be sure to read comment #237, and don;t skip any links provided !

[Yosemitest]

"Remember, BHO, Sr., was already married when he met Stanley Ann. So any marriage to Stanley Ann would have been invalid. Thereby blowing away birferism, even if little Barry actually was born in Kenya!"

Not fact about the marriage being invalid according to Immigration and Naturalization.
If that were true, there would have been no need for a divorce.

His mother and father, indirectly through their divorce papers are witnesses to the FACT that Obama is not born in the United States.

Ed Hale, aprivate investigator in Hawaii, has uncovered the divorce decree for Barack Obama’s father and mother, which indicates they had “one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya.”
But a later Update 1/1/2009,...
"In his 7:45pm Plains Radio broadcast, this last night, Ed Hale backed down from his prior assertion of having gained even uncertain information about the Barack Sr. / Stanley Ann divorce decree containing language referring to Barack Jr. as being born in Kenya. Instead, Hale referred to an apparently tricky recollection... of an ... referring to such a document's generally referring to the place of birth of the children of the divorced parents."
I believe that "indeterminate person" probably SAW the Obama Dunham Divorce Documents BEFORE Page 11 disappeared and viewed the Kenyan Birth Cerfiticate,
thereby telling Ed Hale
"the divorce decree for Barack Obama’s father and mother, indicates they had 'one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya.' ".

The Obama Dunham Divorce Documents are viewable at this location.
There's a great assumption of the time lime at at link.

See the whole Obama 1964 divorce on Scribd.com or as 13 individual images below (in proper order):







I immediately called the clerk in Hawaii and asked where the extra page was. She looked, and counted, and said that there must be some mistake in the records – she counted only 13 pages that are available for reprint. I pointed out to her that the page count she sent skipped from page 10 to page 12 – page 11 was missing. To that, she suggested that perhaps the pages were simply misnumbered before they where archived into the microfiche.

I accepted her answer, not thinking much about it at the time. Perhaps it was just a clerical error in the 1960s, when hand-filed paper records and IBM punch cards were how court documents were tracked and maintained.

I have since come to learn that Obama and his team of lawyers have been working to sanitize his records since he announced that he’d run for President circa November 2004. Now in the White House, he’s still ACTIVELY blocking subpoenas for such documents as his Cambridge and Occidental College records TODAY – the same type of documents promised to be made available during his campaign. Obama and his lawyers are exceedingly adept at exploiting loopholes in Hawaiian birth certificate law to keep Obama’s past hidden from the American people.

This missing page – page 11 – very likely is a copy of the original birth certificate, based upon the prima facie timeline of the 1964 divorce. The Kenya birth certificate was likely requested on Jan 23, 1964 by either Judge King (to award custody on the next trial date), or recommended to Ann Dunham by her attorney for the ex parte divorce, where only one parent was expected to be present.

The missing page, 11, should be chronologically-numbered as all other pages were in the original docket file, by the court clerk at the time. Starting at page 8, Exhibit A is placed where it would have occurred by date in the paperwork (and appeared on microfiche), even denoting an erased, yet barely-readable “8″ on both pages of the returned notification sent to Obama SR. The missing page, numbered as page 11, would likely be a page that would have been admitted to the divorce file sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 – almost as if it were an undocumented “Exhibit B”.

Here’s a very plausible timeline merging the 1964 Obama Divorce papers and new Kenya birth certificate:

Jan 20 (Mon) – divorce request is filed by Stanley Ann D. Obama

Jan 23 (Thur) – divorce orders for trial are given by Judge King at chambers

(note – if the judge, or Ann Dunham’s attorney, told her to order the Kenya birth certificate, it would have been mailed 10,000 miles away, to the “Coast Province” Registrar’s office of the “Republic of Kenya”, likely arriving around the first week of February 1964 to be processed)

Jan 28 (Tue) – Gail A. Watanabe, presumably an assistant of Ann Obama attorney George Kerr, mails the notification for trial to Obama SR (her affidavit is signed Feb 3 and filed)

Jan 30 (Thur) – via Air Mail, notification of trial arrives at Obama SR’s Cambridge, Mass, address. The 10-day “knock and nail” notification would have expired on Sun, Feb 9. Therefore, the next trial date would have been automatically set, per Judge King’s instructions, for the first Tuesday, 30 days later, on March 3

Feb 10 (Mon) – allowing for a 10-day “knock and nail” notification for trial, Obama SR’s trial notification would have been retrieved by the US Post Office on this date, to be mailed back (as events turned out – UNSIGNED by Obama SR) to Hawaii as an exhibit for trial

Feb 17 (Mon) – the Obama Kenya birth certificate is signed by the “Coast Province” Deputy Registrar, to be mailed back to Hawaii for receipt by Ann Obama and/or her attorney
(note: mail time would have ranged from a few days (Air Mail) to a couple of weeks (ship), arriving back in Hawaii in the last week of February to first week of March 3 (Tue). Based upon Judge King’s Jan 23 orders for the next trial date, “at 9:30 a.m. on the first Tuesday after thirty (30) days have elapsed from and after the date” that Obama SR would have been served with the notice of trial. That notification came back, unsigned, by Obama SR, so Ann’s attorneys surely requested, and received Default Judgment for the divorce in her favor for “grievous mental suffering”

Mar 5 (Thur) – trial takes place in favor of divorce in Hawaii, placing custody of Obama JR to his mother by default
(note: the trial was likely rescheduled 2 days after the automatically set date of Mar 3, possibly for the convenience of the judge and/or parties)

Mar 20 (Fri) – the divorce decree is signed by Judge King


In Hawaii, birth certificates are not Public Record. If the Kenya birth certificate was a part of the divorce decree, it may have been pulled out at the end of the trial, or more recently by a watchful archivist or attorneys wishing to remove unfavorable information about Obama.
To date, despite other honest attempts to refute the Kenya birth certificate, such as dealing with when the “Republic of Kenya” came into existence as a republic have been “un-bunked.” Dishonest alterations of the Kenya birth certificate have been maliciously created by sites such as Democratic Underground, designed to discredit the Kenya birth certificate – they’ve been un-bunked as well.

Having not actually seeing the Kenya birth certificate, and it’s chain of evidence, no intellectually-honest person can say if it’s real or not. By the same token, none of us have seen or touched the short-form “Certification of Live Birth” that has appeared on Obama’s “Fight the Smears” or FactCheck.org websites.

No one can confirm the chain of evidence of Obama’s “Certification of Live Birth” that has appeared online, which is the abbreviated-version of Obama’s true, 1961, original long-form(s) “Certificate of Live Birth” and associated vital statistics records. Even the Hawaii Department of Health directly refuses to verify Obama’s online COLBs.