Need a good civil rights documentary for my young homeschooled kids (Vanity)

Jan. 18, 2015 | moi

[knarf]

Actually, I think it fits right in (as NOTHING is easily explained these days, nor has a one syllable answer)

What day is today ?

What government agency is open ?

They are, de facto .. shut down

[CatherineofAragon]

If you want your kids to have the facts about MLK, they will need to know that he was a leftist radical who called American troops war criminals. He was not a Republican, as is often claimed.

[matginzac]

Um, to echo GeronL’s sentiment, why not study the Constitution....?

[donna]

Lost knowledge because liberals write and film history!

[OldNavyVet]

I feel like we're now back where the country was in the 1940s in some ways.

Dad was recalled to the Navy in 1941 and we moved from California to Virginia.

Virginia was a different world.

Blacks sat in theater balconies. Blacks rode in back of bus. Blacks lived in ghettos. Blacks went to black schools. Blacks did their toilet matters in race-separated rooms. Blacks drank water from designated fountains, and blacks went to black schools.

I was there.

[ClearCase_guy]

I wasn't saying that blacks in 2015 were being mistreated in all the ways you just listed.

I was saying that one race is clearly given preferential treatment today. And one race is looked down upon a source of societal problems.

That's the way things were in the 1940s, right?
It's how things are today.

In the 1980s, the problems had not totally disappeared, but they were not at the level we see today. Today, we are a deeply, deeply racist country. Our government promotes racism to a degree not seen in many decades.

[OldNavyVet]

I was saying that one race is clearly given preferential treatment today. And one race is looked down upon a source of societal problems.

What specific race is "clearly given preferential treatment" .., and how?

And also, what specific race "is looked down upon a source of societal problems"?

In the latter, did you mean 'looking'?

[ClearCase_guy]

Blacks are given preferential treatment. Perhaps you haven't noticed. Check with Eric Holder on this -- he's looking out for "his people". Also look into that thing called Affirmative Action. Also, a lot of people get into serious problems over unpaid taxes. But not Al Sharpton. That dude owes $4.5M in taxes, and you'd never know it. He's untouchable. Race hustling has its benefits.

Whites are considered the source of all problems. We are evil and racist and unfair in so many ways. Heck, we even gamed the Oscars so that blacks were not allowed to win this year. Name a problem, and it's YT's fault. Trouble in Ferguson? It sure wasn't Michael Brown's fault. It's all on whitey. 'Cause we bad.

[wardaddy]

I want to thank you for this thread

Its the best evidence since amnesty was touted around here just how bad it is for America

Totally hopeless

This is conservatism

I literally am rolling on my truck seat laughing my ass off

Unbelievable

There is no appropriate reply to the pitiful evidence of brainwashing
What i see here is platitudes from 1970s liberals being parroted by folks who think they are conservative

We are past the point of no return

[OldNavyVet]

There is no appropriate reply to the pitiful evidence of brainwashing

Good post ... Thank's

[Pelham]

“I don’t think there’s a documentary for the side that objected to giving the federal government the power to tell the local shop owner who he must serve . . . because small government people knew that one day they’d be required to bake a gay wedding cake or go to jail and lose their business.”

The fact that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would give the national government power over the free choice of individual Americans is precisely why Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and Bill Buckley opposed it. It was an early choice between freedom and ‘social justice’, that always evolving agenda of the political Left.

Those who sing the praises of the 1964 Civil Rights Act have no room to complain when new “rights” like gay marriage are forced upon them. That 1964 act created the ability of the federal government to determine what opinions are socially acceptable. And if you don’t go along with the officially approved agenda then you can and will be prosecuted, fired from your job, or generally made into a pariah.

Barry Goldwater explains his vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Firing Line (1966)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacJtYPHKiE

Mr. Conservative: Barry Goldwater’s opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJyWWM9OHKA

1964 Reagan speech in support of Goldwater

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvZ1nnYkZQ4

[donna]

Very good! I thought of finding some interviews but I had no idea who/how to find them - my memory grows dim!

Thanks for the links.

[wardaddy]

God save us all

Tks

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

You asked for video, but IMHO the effects of “production values” on intellectual quality can be quite bad. I would direct your attention to these links:

William Wilberforce

Black Rednecks and White Liberals - Thomas Sowell

Epistle to Philemon

The second half of “Black Rednecks” is a real history of slavery - pointing out that slavery was a universal institution throughout history and worldwide, until Christians in general (and Protestants in particular, most especially English) rejected the institution. The key point to understand is that not only were Christians not uniquely bad about slavery, no one but Christians ever rejected slavery on principle.

Note the Book of Philemon is a letter of Paul to a slave owner, and it does not reject slavery.

People even belabor the fact that it took a whole ten years for Christians to abolish the gladitorial games which had been an integral part of Roman society for many generations!

[wardaddy]

Magnus strongly opposed St Martins national holiday

And now GOPe kneepad over it

Pathetic times

[11th_VA]

Those were some interesting songs - never heard them before. Who knew - I believe ‘Green Beret’ was written as a response to ‘Eve of Destruction’ as well.

In general, and looking back, the whole Vietnam strategy was misguided. I was young when the song came out, but had college age brothers for whom the draft was real. And knew neighborhood kids that did not come back. One of my best friends brothers was wounded severally and featured in Life magazine.

To finish my rant, in a nut shell, our efforts to fight insurgency wars in Vietnam and Iraq, etc are flawed. You can’t win without a very supportive local population unless you plan on occupying like a Roman army. The doctrine for fighting insurgency wars were written by US officers that lead Philippine guerilla groups against the Japanese In the PI.

That strategy worked because the indigenous population and guerrillas supported each other.

Thats why, and I might get banned from FR for saying this, is the only thing Obama has done right is his fight against ISIS. Let US troops support as fire control and spotters, but those damn people need to fight the war.

[Fiji Hill]

You should read A Better War: The Unexamined Victories and Final Tragedy of America's Last Years in Vietnam by Lewis Sorley (New York: Harcourt, 1999), which argues that our shift from "search and destroy" to "clear and hold" tactics during the final years of our involvement in Vietnam nearly won the war. A similar argument is found in Robert Thompson's No Exit from Vietnam (New York: McKay, 1969) and Peace is Not at Hand (New York: McKay, 1974).

[Fiji Hill]

Here's some more music:

• The Ballad of the Yellow Beret--The Beach Bums (1966)

• The Universal Coward--Jan Berry (1966)

• Wish You Were Here, Buddy--Pat Boone (1966)

• The Minutemeh Are Turning In Their Graves--Stonewall Jackson (1966)

• Take the Time--The Shangri-Las (1967)